What's going on with this thread?

[BlueIris]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3918190

Maybe I'm missing something or "overreacting," but some of those responses make me shudder.

[atommom]

1. Eesh. You're not kidding!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

2. Apparently...

"denying intimacy", "watching tv", "spending money" and "failing to maintain a household" are grounds for divorcing a woman. Notice how the OP doesn't say "if you find yourself with a spouse that..." it's "if you find yourself with a WOMAN that.."


Wow.

[atommom]

3. Funny how that works out, since as we all know,

controlling men are so unappealing that it's hard NOT to deny intimacy. Bleah.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

4. ROFLOL!

That "Bleah" just cracked me up.

And of course denying intimacy has a variable definition. Some men consider that to be not having sex when they snap their fingers. Like women aren't allowed to have hard days, or just not be in the mood.

[BlueIris]

13. Thanks. I hadn't quite picked up on that part of the OP's vileness.

Ew.

[knowbody0]

5. if i weren't safe at home right now

i'd be having a serious panic attack. the article was bad enough, the responses did me in. that makes me really appreciative of this forum. thank you, all of you!

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[SemiCharmedQuark]

7. I don't think that's fair...

to accept the murderer's description of the woman he had killed as fact.

And, please, unless she too was a murderer, she certainly did not deserve that piece of scum.

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[chicaloca]

22. When two really "unconscious" people get married?

That doesn't even make any sense. First of all, how can you propose to somebody when both you and the person you're popping the question to are knocked out? In a dream? Second, what would that wedding be like? Would they both be laying on stretchers next to each other? What happens when they get to the part where they have to say "I do"? Does someone revive them with smelling salts for a second? But then they wouldn't be "really unconscious" anymore. And what, exactly, does it mean to be "really" unconscious? More unconscious than usual? In a coma? Dead? Are you saying this is what happens when two dead people decide to get married? Please enlighten us, oh wonderful misogynist.

I also love this:
"P.S. I think he was caught planning to kill her; didn't really get to do it."

Ummm....Yeah. That's what he was on trial for, and what the article was about. This isn't a first-grade reading comprehension test, but if you want a gold star for understanding it, I'll see if I can scrounge one up.

[chicaloca]

23. also....

since you think life is so damn fair, do you think homeless children deserve what they get? Do you think women who've been raped deserve what they get? Or people being tortured and killed as a result of wars all around the world? Did the people in the World Trade Centers deserve to die? Do Iraqis dying from U.S. bombs deserve what they get? You're obviously coming from a position of extreme and disgusting privilege. And it's sad that even with all the opportunities you've probably had, you're still an intellectual midget.

[Lars39]

8. I couldn't stay in that thread, but this one caught my eye...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=179&topic_id=1638&mesg_id=1644

[beam me up scottie]

9. I clipped this article from a paper a couple of years ago:

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Maj. Richard Keith Hart, 45, of Orlando, Fla., was tried in a U.S. court-martial. A U.S. Army major accused of killing his wife and dumping her body off a bridge last year was found guilty of voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to 26 years in prison, the U.S. military said Wednesday. Hart, who had been accused of second degree murder, had pleaded guilty to "impeding an investigation by stripping his dead wife of all jewelry and clothing, wrapping her in plastic and dumping her over the Young Jong Bridge," the statement said. Hart had pleaded not guilty to the murder charge. The judge found Hart guilty of the lesser charge of manslaughter after concluding that "his wife was a participant in her own death by provoking him before she was killed," the military statement said.
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My mind STILL cannot process that reasoning...

[atommom]

10. So if he considered himself provoked enough to kill her,

then it really was her fault? What century is this, again?

[beam me up scottie]

11. Amazing, eh?

Military Justice.
Nothing wrong with that judge.
At least in the civilian world, they usually try to disguise the misogyny.

[BlueIris]

12. WTF?!

My stomach hurts after reading that.

[geniph]

14. Um, I feel quite provoked by some of those in our Administration...

...does that mean my subsequent actions can be excused by said provocation? No, it does not, and if I got any more specific, I'm sure I'd get a visit from the SS.

That judge should be disbarred. Florida, AGAIN. Where do they find these throwbacks? Why do they keep putting them on benches?!

[smirkymonkey]

20. So, like, if some sexist asshole provokes me to the point where

I see no other option but to murder him, it's OK?

Wow, who knew!

[Eloriel]

15. Did any of you send any alerts on any of the responses? n/t

[BlueIris]

16. Yup. Make of that what you will. nt.

[atommom]

17. Interestingly enough, no responses were deleted, but the thread is

now locked.

[BlueIris]

18. Huh. I was too nausiated to check. Thanks for the update. nt.

[Warpy]

21. Batterers always say "s/he made me do it"

or some variation of it, pushing all the blame on the battered spouse. Men are something like 80% of the known batterers, probably because they're likelier to inflict significant injuries, but female batterers also blame the injured partner for instigating violence.

I notice that none of these terribly out of control people ever socks a cop or his or her boss, so that "out of control" excuse is wearing very thin.

The puzzle to me is why we as a society let them get away with that stupid excuse.