Attack on Reproductive Rights by DEMOCRATS

[Eloriel]

I thought this was an important thread if some of you hadn't seen it:

The Third Way and Democrats for Life.... and women's rights.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2017353#2017375

Very discouraging.

[atommom]

1. Here's another article about women's rights...

this time focusing on the so-called "feminists for life." Scary stuff. I get the feeling that we're being ganged up on here!

Can you be a feminist and be against abortion? Feminists for Life claims to be both, and if you listen long enough to its voluble and likable president, Serrin Foster, you might almost think it's true. FFL is on a major publicity roll these days, because Jane Roberts, wife of Supreme Court nominee John Roberts, is a pro bono legal adviser, former officer and significant donor (she gave between $1,000 and $2,499 in 2003). When I caught up with Foster at the end of a long day that included an hour on NPR's On Point, she talked a blue and quite amusing streak, and although it can be hard to follow an aria that swoops from Susan B. Anthony to telecommuting to water pollution, while never quite answering the actual question, I'm sure she means every word of it. How can you argue with FFL's contention that America does not give pregnant women and mothers the support they need? Feminists, the prochoice kind, have been saying this for years. So far as I can tell, FFL is the only "prolife" organization that talks about women's rights to work and education and the need to make both more compatible with motherhood. It has helped bring housing for mothers and children to Georgetown University and supports the Violence Against Women Act; Foster reminded me that she and I had been on the same side in the mid-1990s in opposing family caps, the denial of additional benefits to women who had more children while on welfare. Why, she wondered, couldn't we all just work together to "help pregnant women"?

The problem is that FFL doesn't just oppose abortion. FFL wants abortion to be illegal. All abortions, period, including those for rape, incest, health, major fetal defects and, although Foster resisted admitting this, even some abortions most doctors would say were necessary to save the woman's life. (Although FFL is not a Catholic organization, its rejection of therapeutic abortion follows Catholic doctrine.) FFL wants doctors who perform abortions to be punished, possibly with prison terms.

It was extremely difficult to get Foster to say what she thought would happen if abortion was banned. At one point she would not concede that women would continue to have abortions if it was recriminalized; at another she argued that criminalization was no big deal: Instructions on self-abortion were posted on the Internet. I had to work to get her to admit that illegal abortion was common before Roe, and that it was dangerous--numbers on abortion deaths were concocted by pre-Roe legalization advocates, she told me. Yet the FFL website prominently features gory stories of abortion mishaps and discredited claims that abortion causes breast cancer. (Challenged on the cancer connection, Foster says they just want women to have medical information. Asked why they don't then link to the 2004 Lancet article debunking their cancer claims, she says they are not medical experts and have considered taking the cancer pages down.) So legal abortion is dangerous but illegal abortion would be safe? When I pointed out that in countries where the operation is banned, such as Brazil and Peru, rates are sky-high and abortion a major cause of injury and death, she professed ignorance.

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050829&s=pollitt

[bliss_eternal]

2. All I can say to this is

:wtf:

Is the whole world sniffing glue?

[atommom]

3. It sure seems that way!

[Eloriel]

4. Another scarey thread

Kansas attorney general sues to block state-funded abortions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1714166&mesg_id=1714166

I don't know if "the whole world is sniffing glue" but I'm about to regret that I don't.

Or somethin'.

:-(

[bliss_eternal]

5. Me, too Eloriel.

It's quite depressing.

The argument I keep hearing from the right is that they want abortion to be decided by the individual states. Which to me says they just want to be able to attack it on an individual basis, one state at a time--which is very dangerous.

I just don't know what else to do...I've written my senators, called their offices, signed petitions. What else can we do?

:scared: