Interesting article in GD

[MountainLaurel]

That I thought this group might be interested in:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4456684

[ismnotwasm]

1. let me breathe in, get my blood pressure down.......

Ok. What, what, shit I'm still sputtering. Ok, I can think of a few psychological reasons none of them healthy or good for this type of reaction. Since this seems to be dealing with sexual desire for the mother after birth, as a feminist I can ONLY put it down to sexism. Somewhere deep in the psych of these men, the vagina has once use only, like breasts, and that is for the pleasure of the male. Don't get me wrong, there a women who don't want to watch the birth of their own child or anyone else's, too graphic, too much blood. The realization of how fragile and animalistic the body really is can be overwhelming. But to affect sexual desire I think is a little different. I'm sure as hell this isn't too widespread, and I hope these men get help. But we've been having babies for a long time, and I'm sure this is not a new response from males to watching birth. When my daughter was stationed in Kandahar, she said homosexual behavior was rampant, but these males did not consider themselves to be homosexual. "Women are for babies, Men are for Pleasure" was the actual quote she heard. I'm going to have to think about this one a while, and do a little research. Very interesting, thanks for posting

[PassingFair]

2. Wow, what's the debate here?

Men who react this way are DEFECTIVE.

Too bad there's no way of knowing if you've got a bad apple until its "sliced", so to speak.
Do you think any of these guys are honest with their potential mates?
I knew a guy like this, who wouldn't have sex with his wives, vaginally, (incredibly, there were 3 of them) after childbirth. I truly believe that he had an anal fixation and used this as an excuse to plant his seed in a different furrow...

On Edit: You don't hear about women losing interest in sex after seeing a man "gasp" PEE through his penis. "I could NEVER sleep with him after seeing URINE come from the same orifice". SHUDDER!

[Solly Mack]

3. They wanna talk trauma? I don't piss out of my vagina

however, men do shoot piss and sperm from the same hole.(no matter where it comes from internally - it still comes out of the same hole)

How am I ever going to have sex again?????!!!!! The trauma of it all!

How can I view a piss hole as being sexual? Why would I ever want it inside of me? Just plain nasty!

[geniph]

4. Any man who has an issue with this

and can't thereafter see his wife in a sexual light - well, my feelings here are GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH and DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS ON THE WAY OUT!

How infantile. Literally. "It's MINE! The baby RUINED it!"

[ismnotwasm]

5. Just wanted to add

My new Grandson was born yesterday. My 23 year old son wasn't going to watch, because he thought it would gross him out (No way was I going to ask him about sexual desire at this time in his life) Well he watched, cut the cord and was with her all the way. He says it was the most spiritual experience of his life. He looks a little shell shocked --she's up eating an omelet, relaxed as could be. But the tenderness they are showing one another and the baby right now put everything right in the world, just for the moment. And It seemed like watching my baby becoming a man overnight. I know it doesn't work that way, he's 23--both of them are too young for parenthood to me, but..here we are. Anyway, I thought of this thread, and how it pissed me off. Then I see my rather immature son stepping up to the plate, doing what needs to be done to support his girlfriend, changing diapers, plotting out babysitting, solicitous over her and their new child in everyway. Well, I felt better. My son is Gay and Women friendly, understands women's issues, and has escaped most of the more ignorant attitudes that many young men have. And so this morning thinking about it, I'm truly grateful. And I have a new grandson, that I will do everything in my power to influence to be the same way. Feminism starts with me in my home and in my family and I never want to forget that.

[redqueen]

6. Unfrickinbelievable.

I should just stop because all I want to do right now is rant.

:grr:

:banghead: