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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 06:11 PM
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TYT: Obama Threatens Veto on National Defense Authorization Act Provision
 
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A provision in the National Defense Authorization Act (which passed unanimously in the Senate) allows the military to detain terrorism suspects, including American citizens, indefinitely with no real trial. Cenk Uygur breaks it down on The Young Turks.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 07:08 PM
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1. I'll believe a veto if and when it actually happens. He's said similar about other bills then caved.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 07:24 PM
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3. Before you get to excited about his veto, his threat to veto is because he is unhappy
Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 07:26 PM by rhett o rick
with the limits to his power, not because he will have to much. He wants more power.

"The White House already had threatened a veto if the bill isn't changed, saying it could not accept legislation that "challenges or constrains the president's authorities to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the nation."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=2455086

This is huge.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 07:39 PM
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5. ^^^ Everyone should read your post. I'd forgotten that his reasons are bassackwards.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 07:50 PM
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7. To me this is an extremely important decision. It shows us exactly where Obama stands. nm
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 08:43 PM
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10. It shows me where both parties stand. n/t
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 07:10 PM
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2. Let's hope Obama's threat is real. If he caves on this one...we are in big trouble.
Not that the country isn't in big trouble already.. but this law is more than dangerous.

Has anyone figured out why in the world Sen Carl Levin would propose a bill like this? Why did he come up with this and who is it supposed to benefit.. the Bankers?

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 07:49 PM
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6. Please read post 3 above. nm
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 07:33 PM
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4. I know this has been posted millions of times.. but it never gets old......
Especially in light of the Natl Def Author Act. If this bill passes .. we ARE LIVING in 1932 Germany... no more doubts or speculation.
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 08:08 PM
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8. Did you think the war criminals in Congress
Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 08:12 PM by JJW
weren't going to come after you? You think hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans who were killed, weren't innocent?
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 08:16 PM
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9. 93 to 7
:wow:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 09:07 AM
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12. Do you know who voted against? nm
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 08:30 AM
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11. He'd best do more than
just threaten! :mad:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 09:09 AM
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13. He is threatening because he thinks the bill is TOO WEAK. Please read post 3 above.
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