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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-12 08:18 AM
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Paul Ryan - Ayn Rand's Relevance (Must see & Pass it on! Plus a link to LA Times 8/12 article)
 
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This was him touting her so strongly in 2009, before he became the boy wonder of the GOP 2012.

Wow. just wow! this guy espouses her beliefs like she's his Great Teacher! Ayn Rand said the pursuit of self individualism in attaining all you can without being stopped by gov't and being forced to give to the poor people/sick that she refers to as "takers" and "parasites", really sums up this guy's world view! Her views are offensive to me as a liberal Christian, and it's disgusting that Mr Ryan is so flattering of her views in the above video!

The LA Times has an article on "Paul Ryan loved Ayn Rand, before he said he didn't", where they point out his claim that it is just an "urban legend" about his being so vocal about believing in her views.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-vp-paul-ryan-ayn-rand-20120811,0,1175099.story

(more at link)

(now he claims) I reject her philosophy, Ryan told Robert Costa of the National Review. Its an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. He added that he had merely enjoyed a couple of her novels, which also included another bestseller, The Fountainhead.

But Ryan made no bones about his philosophical influences just a few years ago. He told the Weekly Standard in 2003 that he gave his staffers copies of Atlas Shrugged as Christmas presents. Speaking to a group of Rand acolytes in 2005, Ryan said, The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand. And the fight we are in here, make no mistake about it, is a fight of individualism versus collectivism.

Even three years ago, Tim Mak of Politico noted, Ryan channeled Rand. Whats unique about whats happening today in government, in the world, in America, is that its as if were living in an Ayn Rand novel right now, Ryan said. I think Ayn Rand did the best job of anybody to build a moral case of capitalism, and that morality of capitalism is under assault.

It is not enough to say that President Obamas taxes are too big or the healthcare plan doesnt work for this or that policy reason, the lawmaker said. It is the morality of what is occurring right now, and how it offends the morality of individuals working toward their own free will to produce, to achieve, to succeed, that is under attack, and it is that what I think Ayn Rand would be commenting on.




Get it here:
http://www.zazzle.com/rmoney_ryan_a_plan_called_austerity_sticker-217210752180754331?rf=238107662556833486
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-12 08:39 AM
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1. FYI: Ayn Rand applied for Medicare & Social Security when lung cancer got her
Edited on Sun Aug-12-12 08:41 AM by Divine Discontent
Here's the DU video thread link to "The Truth about GOP hero Ayn Rand", from April 2011.


It is a short video where she assails Christianity, social programs, gov't controls on capitalism, and the great social programs (that she later sought to collect help from).

The video presciently features a 30-something Paul Ryan at the beginning and the end of the video!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x574778


PASS IT ON!



Get it here:
http://www.zazzle.com/bushs_comeback_team_2012_bumper_sticker-128086037468948857?rf=238107662556833486
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-12 01:03 PM
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3. Ryan has repudiated her sometime last spring claiming he's not a Randite
Maybe he found out she applied for those things and she became dead to him
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-12 03:07 PM
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5. "she became dead to him" bwahahaha! wouldn't surprise me. And he can try and backtrack on his
effusive boasting of her political views of coldness and selfishness, but I ain't buying it!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-12 08:48 AM
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2. The morality of capitalism is under assault?
Well if it isn't, it certainly to fuck should be.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-12 03:06 PM
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4. succinctly great point & post. keep 'em up!
"morality of capitalism" - ain't that sickening?

he's warped, and gonna keep running away from his previous gushing over Ayn Rand's beliefs.

It could be a great Dem. campaign youtube video if they made a precise video simply pointing out what she was against, and his defense of her, and how it influences his nasty budget cuts.



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http://www.zazzle.com/paul_ryan_ayn_rand_budget_bumper_sticker-128567915003360711?rf=238107662556833486
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-12 03:28 PM
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6. This is another fine article by the Reichster.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-12 03:51 PM
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7. excellent, thanks n/t
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