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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:53 PM
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A short open letter to Hillary Clinton and her supporters.
Dear Hillary

I'm one of those people invisible to YOU. Where could I find you this year when the Democrats took over congress and who could have introduced a bill to repeal the junk Medicare part D which does not help most middle class people and place the prescription drug benefit in Medicare part B which implies that the prescription drug benefit would not have any extra premiums or deductibles or coverage gaps and medication would get covered at 80 percent. In that bill I wanted you to introduce would have a repeal of the means test in Medicare Part B which will turn Medicare into Welfare care and not help the middle class. Where was the bill that would repeal the FICA tax cap at 90,000 dollars or so and tax all of a persons income for social security purposes and to exempt the first $10,000 dollars of income to help lower income people.

For other people not just me, where could they find you when people need a real minimum wage of $10 an hour and not $7.25 that will take 2 years to take effect while businesses get even more huge tax breaks in return for the paltry increase in the minimum wage?

Yes, Mr. Bush appears blind to people like me and many others especially children, but you should "know" better and do better than the third coming of Herbert Hoover.

So if you redeem yourself Senator Clinton, whose office I have called over the last number of years to see about lowering HMO costs until I bailed because the prices got too high and also asked about repeal and replacement of Medicare Part D, by introducing these 2 bills I might even support you in the New York primary.

Until then, I can't see you Mrs. Clinton. Bill, overall did a decent job as President but he did throw people on welfare under the bus because there appears a segment of society who appear stupid and mean, but Bill believed he had to pander to them to get his second term.

I don't want you to pander to this stupid and mean segment of society. This segmnent of society went to Nazi rallies in Germany in the 1930's and did nothing while Jews, lost their homes and businesses and jobs and eventually got incinerated. You Shouldn't pander to this segment in this country today.


You remain invisible to me Mrs. Clinton.


And now to direct this to everyone and not just Hillary's supporters when will you people wake up and realize that if you want to get past the flibuster and veto for the next 17 months you're going to have to threaten, yes I said threaten the contributors to the GOP with consumer boycotts.

That means calling some of the biggest contributors and making the legislative demands that the Republicans refuse to enact into law. I don't just vent for venting. I vent for action.

You can go to my website http://www.dmocrats.org and send that letter to info@gop.com and if thousands of people send it we can figuratively knock the Republicans over the left field wall for a grand slam home run.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:58 PM
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1. K&R
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 04:58 PM by jgraz
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:05 PM
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2. Thank you.


I will not cooperate with those people or companies who will not help me or will attempt to regress me.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:07 PM
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3. Did you write a letter like this about the other candidates.
This is what repels me from the other candidates people support. They are constantly slamming and bamming Hillary Clinton and not saying the same about their candidates.

OBAMA is a member of congress is he doing this.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:11 PM
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4. Amen. eom
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:11 PM
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5. Exactly right!!! eom
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:02 PM
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18. Bit, I agree totally with your
comments, but mine has to do with those people that want HRC to grovel about her Iraq vote. For some reason, some Democrats in here can't say, "I prefer Edwards or Obama." No, that won't do - that would take a measure of adulthood. It is always something negative about HRC, but that is your right to express exactly what you desire. but I too get to write what I feel too....

I wonder if these same folks that respond to anything HRC puts out are the same ones that say she must apologize for her vote on Iraq and in some way claim she is enabling this war? Ask yourself how stupid it would sound to say,Max Cleland's enabling the Iraq war disaster, Joe Biden's enabling the Iraq war disaster, Tom Harken's enabling the Iraq war disaster, John Kerry's enabling the Iraq war disaster, Chuck Schumers enabling the Iraq war disaster.(On the Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114 voted Yea)

You see? It's no fun to hold Harken or Kerry responsible for BUSH's disaster, but the freshman senator from New York, SHE's responsible for BUSH's disaster all on her own. It was HER vote thats killed 3700 soldiers and Cleland, Kerry and Edwards had NOTHING to do with it.

If this is not you, then why is it that folks keep up the rant that HRC must apologize.....This fever reminds me of the GOP's impeachment fever back in 1998. Bill's impeachment was like a criminal assault and battery. NOTHING was going to stop that impeachment because they had the fever. The GOP was "caught up" with impeachment fever - that's all they could see or hear. Bill's approval rating was in the 70s - and voters clearly didn't want him to be impeached, but like the criminal who can't stop until he assaults enough, it was GOING to happen.

Hell, the GOP lost seats in November of 1998 - but that didn't matter to them. NOTHING was going to stop that impeachment because they had the fever. They lived and breathed impeachment the way some people are now living and breathing "Stop her!"

IF YOU,LIKE ANOTHER CANDIDATE BETTER THAN HRC,VOTE FOR HIM...... But when I read some of the vitriol directed towards HRC, you got the fever and that tells me something.

And to THOSE DEMOCRATS, "I'll vote Republican before I'll vote for Her," Democrats need to worry because your "Stop her!" fever is turning you into what the GOP was in 1998.

I do thank you
Ben David
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:26 PM
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6. And Me Too
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 05:45 PM by mntleo2
Ms Clinton:

A couple years ago you went around the country with of all people, Joe LIEberman touting Welfare Reform and how wonderful it is when you know darn well from the numbers right in front of you, it is plunging entire families into life long poverty. Furthermore, you are well aware it demeans the work women have done since time immemorial, saying that community building and family care is now codified into law as "doing nothing" and that a minimum wage job is more important than a child. It forces newborn babies to forfeit their mothers into the never ending cycle of illness as they languish in day care instead of being cared for by a parent and able to build up a sttrong relationship, so they can never bond closely with anyone for the rest of their lives. It forces women into low paying and deprives children of their parents and leaves them alone in front of the TV ~ or worse to find trouble because they are left after school with little or no direction.

I wrote you a letter of despair and anger at the time, but you did not even acknowledge it. Plus I had friends in NY city who stood in front of your house while you pretended they were not there, asking you why did you waffle so much on low income issues? Instead you and LIEberman as well as that despicable, heartless self-absorbed idiot Rudy Guiliani, you supported his undermining of good union jobs with workfare workers who worked for pennies on the dollar and displaced all those good city jobs and while undermining those same families. THIS is what you and Joe said was SO wonderful, right there under your nose.

You know if you are the candidate, I will vote for you, but I will wretch and hold my nose. For your future support however, this is *no* way to begin a presidency unless you come clean about what I speak as well as the war, your silly pandering flag burning amendment, and all the other wing nut things you have supported. Otherwise you will not have a whole lot of support for the things you want to get done, and face it, you already have enough baggage to carry. I applaud your stance on health care, I am glad you have changed your mind about the war and lack of support for the soldiers, but I worry Ms Clinton.

Because we already have endured almost a decade of someone who is even willing to send his own countrymen to their deaths rather than admit a mistake. I ask myself, "Do we really need someone else who is the same way? If you think taking care of families is "doing nothing" how can I expect you to stand up for us in things like health care and family leave, if you cannot convince the government and private industry parenting IS a full time job and worthy of everyone's support?" At least your husband was contrite and apologized ~ and to be honest this is why, to this day wherever he goes people amass and cheer and why everywhere his predecessor goes people riot.

VERY Sincerely Yours,

Cat In Seattle
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:49 PM
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14. You touch on an issue very near and dear to me
I raised two children on my own, and I knew that being a good parent was the most important thing I'd ever do in my life. Yet society treated it as insignificant, as if children will raise themselves. I sacrificed a lot to me home with them in the early years, and even when they were in school, I took jobs that would allow me to be there when they left for school and when they got home. We were poor because of it, but my kids weren't going to be shuffled about between daycare and babysitters like pieces of luggage.

We can't create a strong, healthy society if our children are not raised properly and daycare is not a substitute for family. I think it is a matter of where we place our priorities. I would rather see my tax dollars used to support families and improve our schools, than spent on missile defense systems and corporate welfare.

Yes, I do will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee, but I would feel better about it if I could sense for one moment, she was sincere. This is NOT Hillary-bashing. I just can't see a person there, just the politician. Believe me, I've looked and hoped. I was a big fan years ago, but that person seems to be gone.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:36 PM
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7. K & R .....
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:54 PM
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8. I get it. It's HRC's fault that she couldn't, singlehandedly,
force through a higher minimum wage bill, and that she couldn't force Bush to sign it, and that she couldn't force enough Repubs to vote to overturn a Bush veto.

You are incredibly naive or you think everyone else is.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:01 PM
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15. This is true
but people need to remember that Hillary is not a liberal (if that is important to you). She may have been in her younger days, but not anymore. I'm not sure what she is. Guess it depends on what crowd she's speaking to.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:27 PM
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16. Her actual voting record, according to Progressive Punch,
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 10:28 PM by pnwmom
puts her among the most liberal members of the Senate, with an overall record of over 90% on progressive issues. This compares to a score of 15% or less among typical Republicans. There is a reason the Rethugs hate her, and it isn't because she's a conservative.

www.progressivepunch.com
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 02:25 PM
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20. you condense what they are saying. besides, some things you
fall on your sword for. helping people in crisis is one of them.
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MS Liberal Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:13 PM
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9. I am voting for Hillary
You are entitled to your opinion but I am still voting for Hillary.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:21 PM
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10. Why?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:54 PM
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11. I am, too.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:57 PM
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12. Whatever happened to closed letters?
They were underappreciated.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:10 PM
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13. I also sent the letter to the Hillary Clinton Campaign.
Since I live in NY, Clinton's one of my senators. Why only ask this of her? She made the commercial about invisibility. She has served in the Senate longer than Barack Obama. She could have done more to block the Medicare part D scam back in 2003.

I will most likely vote for Edwards.

Edwards did not sign onto a flag burning bill. Hillary did. Why does she pander to stupid mean people?

Hillary sat by while Bill Clinton threw millions of welfare beneficiaries under the bus in 1996.


If you want a centrist corporatist to sit in the white house which means Medicare Part D will continue to stand and not help most middle class people and people only earn a minimum $7.25 an hour in 2009 go ahead and vote for Hillary.


I want Medicare Part D scrapped and replaced and Single payer universal health care enacted.



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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:54 PM
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17. Hillary Clinton STANDS FOR NOTHING BUT ELECTION
personally the woman makes me sick - she was MIA for YEARS - never wanted to take a real stand on anything because she wanted to make sure she never slipped up and hurt her run for the Presidency. I remember reading somewhere that a while back when Russ Feingold wanted to introduce some kind a censure amendment (not the recent one) - and had only two other Dems joining him - that Hillary actually ran out of a room and through a kitchen to avoid comment on it - yeah she's a leader - but the straw that broke the camels back for me was this:

But Clinton added: “My bottom line is that I don’t want their sons to die in vain.”

Asked when she thought those soldiers’ mission might be complete, Clinton responded: “I don’t believe it’s smart to set a date for withdrawal. I don’t think you should ever telegraph your intentions to the enemy so they can await you.”

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0539,fergusoncamp,68174,2.html

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1016-20.htm

This is almost an EXACT quote from the freak in chief a few days earlier - so whoever said Hillary is Bush Light and I think it was Obama was ABSOLUTELY FREAKING CORRECT.

I will not vote for her in the primary - and it will nearly kill me to have to vote for her in the general. I pray TO GOD EVERY NIGHT that she does not get the nomination and I have waited my WHOLE FRIGGIN LIFE for a woman President - she doesn't deserve it - she lacks the character to stand for something without first seeing which way the wind is blowing.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:06 PM
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19. And that is part of my problem with her! There are some things about her I respect
but they are outweighed by the fact that is is 100% politician.

"I will not vote for her in the primary - and it will nearly kill me to have to vote for her in the general. I pray TO GOD EVERY NIGHT that she does not get the nomination and I have waited my WHOLE FRIGGIN LIFE for a woman President"

That quotes says it all!

What is extremely sad is I used to really like her.I still gave a campaign button of hers in my kitchen.Sigh.
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