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RadicalTexan Donating Member (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:15 PM
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I am a Dawkinsian atheist, and I find McFailin's demonization of Muslims as un-American despicable.
That's all.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:17 PM
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1. I don't know what a Dawkinsian is...
but I agree with you. (I'm an agnostic, so it makes sense that I don't know.) :)
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:20 PM
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3. Dawkinsian, from Richard Dawkins.
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RadicalTexan Donating Member (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:21 PM
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4. I am an atheist in the mold of Richard Dawkins
i.e. I think religion is mostly bad for humanity, and I think it should be open for public criticism, like any other topic.

But I don't think one's religiosity or lack thereof has any bearing on one's American-ness. The only thing that matters is the Constitution. If you support the Constitution, you're an American, period. And people have the right to believe whatever the fuck they want, as long as they don't try to harm others.

This scapegoating of my fellow - Muslim - Americans sickens me. Palin's the anti-American one.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:26 PM
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6. OK, I understand that, too...
It's the "selfish gene" stuff I get when I Google "Dawkinsian" that I evidently don't get. I agree with this post, too.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:19 PM
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2. Pretty much same here and also upset. I'm glad Olbermann and Uygur have mentioned...
...the "'Muslim' as opposite of 'Good Family Man'".

PB
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RadicalTexan Donating Member (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:22 PM
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5. or "Arab" as opposite of "good family man"
Fuck that shit. Especially coming from a serial adulterer and misogynist.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:27 PM
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7. Dawkins is technically agnostic
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 10:38 PM by Incitatus



Richard Dawkins spectrum of probability as to the existence of God.

1. Strong theist. 100 per cent probability of God. In the words of C.G. Jung, 'I do not believe, I know

2. Very high probability but short of 100 per cent. De facto theist. 'I cannot know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there.'

3. Higher than 50 per cent but not very high. Technically agnostic but leaning towards theism. 'I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God.'

4. Lower than 50 per cent but not very low. Technically agnostic but leaning towards atheism. 'I do not know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be sceptical.'

5. Lower than 50 per cent but not very low. Technically agnostic but leaning towards atheism. 'I do not know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be sceptical.'

6. Very low probability, but short of zero. De facto atheist. 'I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there.'

7. Strong atheist. 'I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung "knows" there is one.'

Dawkins notes that he would be "surprised to meet many people in category 7". Dawkins calls himself "about a 6.8."
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RadicalTexan Donating Member (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:02 AM
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10. He also thinks it's important to use the term "atheist" to lessen our stigma
He encourages us to "come out."
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:28 PM
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8. Republicans: unChristian and unAmerican
unEthical... hell, unEverything true and good.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:29 PM
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9. I'm an atheist who has read Dawkins, and while I don't think
he has much to do with it, I don't think McCain or Palin should use their claims to Christian faith to allege they are better than anyone, or to demonize Muslims. They have shown the limits of their intelligence via their campaign positions, and hating on Muslims adds little to nothing to what they offer. I think they offer irresponsible foreign policy and a misunderstanding of what separation of church and state should really mean. But I understand these beliefs have sometimes been se as radical, even when I hold them.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:04 AM
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11. I'm an Anarco-Syndicalist.
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