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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:44 PM
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meet my ideology
- equality under the law for all
- protection for those in need
- wise planning for the future
- if it harms no innocent, be free
- stop doing stupid shit with the earth
- stop doing stupid shit in the short term overseas that we'll have to fix later

It's wacky stuff, I know, and subject to one-dimensional thinking. I'll try to do better.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:47 PM
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1. and you are a "purist" too!
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 06:53 PM by fascisthunter
now if only you were a "centrist" we might be able to let you into that small tent within the big tent of the Democratic Party.



:sarcasm:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:51 PM
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23. it's a character flaw.
:D
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:48 PM
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2. Sounds about right!
Why does this seem to be so difficult to understand?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:54 PM
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25. lack of imagination?
:shrug:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:49 PM
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3. You radical you
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:55 PM
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7. stop me before I have goals again!
:D
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:10 AM
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47. Goals?!?! NOT goals!!! Now you're just talking crazy
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 10:11 AM by Solly Mack
before long you'll have reasonable expectations...dangerous


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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:52 PM
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4. Oh, you crazy ideologue.
How can you be so irrational?
:thumbsup:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:03 PM
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10. don't I know how crazy this is?
:D
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:52 PM
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5. r
nice
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:18 PM
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29. thanks.
:hi:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:55 PM
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6. Disruptive!
Not really, kick and rec.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:59 PM
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8. Very good.
Nominated.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:02 PM
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9. thanks.
:)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:48 PM
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11. LOL...the nerve, eh?
:crazy:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:36 PM
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16. I've got some iron ones, I tell you.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:49 PM
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12. you sound like one of those looney leftists that live in an ivory tower on the campus of a liberal
arts college. :eyes:

heh. it been a hoot reading DU since the election. the surrender of some is quicker and more complete than i thought possible.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:38 PM
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17. I know I got into politics because I simply want to win at something.
Don't care what it is. It's a holdover from not being good at dodgeball, I guess.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:55 PM
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13. Damn your pet issues! You woo woo ..ermm.. or something :)
My ideology is exactly the same therefore.. better ;)
Just kidding, sometimes its just so silly around here.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:40 PM
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18. damn, I left out "violent overthrow of the middle class"
:D
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:16 PM
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14. Love it!
Pretty close to my ideology.

It's all so damn simple.

Ever see "The President's Analyst"?

"It's rather complicated, my boy..."

"No. It's not complicated at all. Dr. Schaeffer talks in his sleep. (He must be stopped)."
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:41 PM
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20. who benefits from the idea that it's so complicated?
;-)
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:23 PM
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15. When common sense is deemed radical
you know you are in trouble.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:42 PM
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21. oh hell, we've been up shit creek for a while.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:04 AM
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44. Maybe if enough of us find our paddles and go
the other way! :)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:41 PM
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19. You DO REALIZE...you ARE A MINORITY! Dontcha? n/t
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:43 PM
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22. realize? it's key to my identity!
I couldn't function if I weren't protesting the majority.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:52 PM
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24. GOTTCHA!
:grouphug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:00 PM
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26. Is "stop doing stupid shit in the short term overseas" a reference to
lied into wars or corporations basically enslaving cheap labor so that jobs leave here?

Anyway, I'm against both, in addition to the items on your list, so I must be a flaming ideologue! :evilgrin:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:04 PM
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27. it includes that, yeah.
so I must be a flaming ideologue!

Fucking freak. :D
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:19 PM
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30. As if I haven't been called that before!!
I'll raise you an equitable, good education for all and living wages and healthcare - universal please! Freaking away, fucking freakin' away.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:23 PM
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33. see, now you're talking crazy stuff.
Folks prefer the insecurity of the current healthcare racket system, and those with their fingers perpetually in the air don't think UHC is a good idea.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:08 PM
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38. All that I know, is that we have health insurance...
I got sick through no fault of my own, was hospitalized, the treatment after I was released was very expensive, lasted a little over 2 yrs., and it almost bankrupted us because of what BCBS didn't want to pay.

I don't think that working families or anyone should have to deal with that stress in addition to having a nasty illness, but I'm just crazy for wanting better for us as a society.

Is my padded room ready yet?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:12 PM
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39. like your insurance pays for padded rooms.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:47 PM
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42. Oh shit!!
You're correct. I'd be looking for padding on the street. Thanks for the reminder. :blush:
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:10 PM
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28. Sounds reasonable to me
I'm with you. In fact, sounds like true American Ideals to me. :patriot:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:20 PM
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31. "ideals" is a Bad Word, you know.
Makes us sound like we want things and shit. Best keep that under wraps. ;)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:21 PM
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32. Damn commie!
:thumbsup:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:24 PM
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34. keeping Georgia red since 1991.
:hi:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:28 PM
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35. nothing from the "ideologue" crowd?
Why not?
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:54 PM
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36. I will fill in for them
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 09:56 PM by Two Americas
All of this sounds just great, and hey don't get me wrong, I agree with you BUT we do have to live in the real world. It is all fine and well to rant and rave on the Internet, but what are you doing that is constructive? We all know that people with ideals never do anything, and that people who do things have no ideals.

I am on your side, so stop your whining and stop trying to accuse me of being opposed to you, just because I am opposed to you. I used to have all of these ideals, too, and then I grew up, faced reality, and stopped living in fantasy land.

It is great that you want all treated equally under the law. But the reality is that there are powerful people in this country who want to deny equal protection and equal rights to some of us, and they are Americans too and deserve a seat at the table if we want to get anything done. Aren't their opinions as good as anyone else's? We need to hear all voices, and it seems you want to shut some people out just because they want to destroy the earth, oppress the people, and deny justice. We need to welcome their ideas and concepts. Compromise is a reality, and reality is compromised, and a compromised reality is a real compromise. It is what we have to do if we want to get anywhere. we compromise because we can - because it doesn't cost us anything and who cares about the losers who suffer as a result? Tome they take personal responsibility.

We need to rule from the center and represent all Americans. The wealthy and powerful 1% gets 90% of the power, and the other 90% of the people get a 10% share of power, if that. That is compromise. Hey, at least it is better than the Republicans, where the 1% gets all of the power!

I know how you lunatic leftists are. Today you complain about torture, but before you know it we will hear you whining about people losing their jobs. Nothing will ever make you happy, it seems. Whine, whine, whine, doom and gloom, tin foil.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:00 PM
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37. that's not bad, actually.
Compromise is a reality, and reality is compromised, and a compromised reality is a real compromise.

:rofl:
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:36 PM
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40. You left off "-do whatever it takes to make a shitload of money"
Har Har

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:38 PM
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41. ?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:13 PM
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43. a wee
:kick:
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:07 AM
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45. How dare you spew such vile nonsense! It's positively democratic!


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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:10 AM
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46. I need to check "the audacity of hope" first to see if this is cool. nt
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