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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:21 PM
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DMV to transwoman: "An abomination leading to hell"
Fundie DMV employee clearly not well-versed in privacy laws:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/10/MNGS1GOICK.DTL

A few days after Amber Yust visited the Department of Motor Vehicles in San Francisco to register her sex change from male to female, she got a letter at home from the DMV employee who had handled her application.

Homosexual acts, he informed her, were "an abomination that leads to hell."

The same day, Yust said, a DVD arrived from a fundamentalist church warning of eternal damnation for anyone "possessed by demons" of homosexuality. The DMV employee's letter had referred her to the church's website as a source of "critical information for your salvation."

What's more, the DMV had kept the employee on in 2009 even after he refused to process another transgender woman's name-change application, Yust said in a damage claim filed with the state, the precursor to a lawsuit.


Most people only speak of DMV as "hell" metaphorically. :eyes:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:25 PM
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1. This was obviously not an act of the DMV, and was clearly against DMV policies and procedures
The letter wasn't even on DMV stationery. It was typed on plain paper according to a version of the story in the San Diego Union-Tribune which I read this morning.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/09/transgender-woman-files-privacy-claim-against-dmv/
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:32 PM
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4. Then why did they keep the moran on after he did the same thing before?
Just a year or two ago.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:37 PM
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5. Firing a public employee isn't easy in California
One of my best friends is a mid-level manager in the San Diego County Health and Human Services Department. She had to terminate someone once. They guy showed up at work late every day and basically did nothing. It took her more than a year to document his performance problems and initiate the termination process. After he was terminated, he appealed and was provisionally re-hired. It took an additional nine months to get him off the payroll.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:25 PM
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2. Employees like her just add to the 'hell-like' atmosphere.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:31 PM
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3. The employee was apparently a "he"
said the article. The transwoman was simply trying to get an "F" put on her license.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:42 PM
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6. sorry, I browsed quickly and thought the employee was also a woman
i hope the woman wins her suit. It seems amazing that it could get this far. I'd think the guy's supervisor would have taken action early on to resolve this, but often these things really do start at the top.

i know from having a job that required me to retrieve information from various welfare offices throughout Santa Clara, CA and surrounding counties that the whole tone and atmosphere was extremely different from office to office. Some of the places the employees were surely and almost rude and moved very slowly, and in other offices they were friendly and efficient.

So i hope she wins her case.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:42 PM
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7. This type of discrimination is just sick.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:49 PM
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10. This is far creepier than discrimination. This is more like stalking. n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 02:03 PM
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14. Yeah especially when he misused a government database to obtain her address.
I'm surprised there's not some sort of felony involved here. :yoiks:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:46 PM
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8. I hope she sues and wins. nt
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:49 PM
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9. Talk about an asshole that needs to be added to the ranks of the unemployed!
What's more, the DMV had kept the employee on in 2009 even after he refused to process another transgender woman's name-change application, Yust said in a damage claim filed with the state, the precursor to a lawsuit.

K&R.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:50 PM
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11. In San Francisco, of all places!
I was expecting Cincinnati, or something. Kansas City. Anywhere but SF!



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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:57 PM
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12. The DMV employer would have to be fired if for no other reason
than a government empoyee cannot use information they have due to their job, the women's address, for personal reasons. With most government agencies you have to sign an agreement on a yearly basis stating you will not do this under penilty of jail time and/or fines.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:59 PM
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13. Aren’t Ca state employees bound by confidentiality laws?
Can a state employed provide a name and address of one of the state’s clients to a third party?
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 06:00 PM
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15. That man doesn't deserve a job in ANY profession.
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 06:00 PM by TheWatcher
As far as I'm concerned, he can starve to death in a box in an alley sitting in his own waste.

Yes, that sentiment is shocking, it's ugly.

And I don't care.

After a lifetime of watching others deal with this kind of bullshit, and having to live through it myself, I no longer have any conscience left for garbage like this.

Nor do they deserve any.

:grr:

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 06:45 PM
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16. Aw, c'mon.
What about all the people who have to walk past the alley? :P
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 06:48 PM
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17. Well, you do have a point.
Maybe we can designate someone to hose him down at least once a day. :evilgrin:
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