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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:45 AM
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1st WikiLeaks, next? NYT? DU? HuffPost?
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 11:46 AM by Crazy Dave
:shrug:

Edit: How could I forget Michael Moore?
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Creative Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:54 AM
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1. You sound like Beck and Hannity...paranoid.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:56 AM
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3. UUUUUUUUMMMMMM
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:15 PM
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7. You sound like an expert on Beck and Hannity
:P
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:15 PM
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8. LOL
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Creative Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:51 PM
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13. I know enough to know that there isn't much difference between their
paranoia and yours.

:crazy:
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:03 PM
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14. Obviously you've never paid attention to the right-wing lawmakers...
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 01:10 PM by Crazy Dave
...and their accusations that websites like Democratic Underground, Daily Kos, Huffington Post all support the enemy and put American lives in danger. These are lawmakers, not bloggers or your FOX News buddies making these accusations. Sure it's a stretch but not impossible giving how more and more of our civil liberties get taken away every day while you like to make smart-ass comments about them.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:14 PM
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16. So what if they make accusations?
They do that to give a bit of red meat to their crazy base. They did it from Sept 11 2001 onwards, and yet, somehow, DU was not proscribed in that period.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:22 PM
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19. So you want me to take DU out of the title?
Will that make you and the other crybabies happy? :cry:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:33 PM
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20. You're calling us 'crybabies'? Heh, look in the mirror
You're the one panicking that Something Horrible is about to happen to organisations and websites. At least, that's what you seem to mean in this thread. The OP just lists Wikileaks as 'first'. Assuming you weren't ranking your favourite websites, then let's look at what has happened to an organisation that has literally been targeted by the American government - Al Jazeera. While that's happened, they've opened up an English language channel, which can easily be watched all over the USA, on the net. And on a few TVS too, I understand. So, all the fuming about it by lawmakers as being an 'enemy' has had no effect whatsoever. It suffered by the unofficial bombing of it by the Bush admin in warzones. And, you know, DU, Huffington Post, the New York Times and Wikileaks aren't actually located in warzones.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:08 PM
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15. DELETED DUPE
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 01:09 PM by Crazy Dave
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:56 AM
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2. DUer's are posting state secrets?
I thought that was Dick Cheney's job.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:17 PM
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9. According to the State Department, those cables are still classified.
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 12:20 PM by EFerrari
So, if I post one here, yes, I'm posting state secrets. :)
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:17 PM
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17. But, even the State Dept has gotten in on the action! See:
Revealed: US State Dept. republished WikiLeaks document from Feb 2009

Is viewing and republishing documents from WikiLeaks illegal, or isn't it? Apparently not even the US State Department knows.

America's top diplomatic agency republished a document leaked by the secrets outlet, which the site revealed today via Twitter.

"State department republishes Wikileaks' doc," they wrote on their Twitter page. "Will they now try to sue themselves?"

The document (.pdf) is a congressional report on US trade policy in the Caribbean. The report was published in January 2009 and was released by WikiLeaks on February 2, 2009, along with 6,780 other congressional reports.

It was unclear when the US State Dept. published the document, which resided on its .gov domain.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/state-department-republishes-document-wikileaks/
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:19 PM
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18. I know! That's hilarious!
:hi:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:12 PM
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4. Hell, if I was in the govt I'd put my state secrets here
so that the commentariat would think they were all crazy conspiracy theories...
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:14 PM
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5. If the govt banned them and you disagreed, would that make you a libertarian?
Cause it seems to make me one around here when I don't like every single action and thing our govt does and I call em on it...
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:18 PM
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11. It's really not as big a stretch as some may think
During the Bush term many websites were accused by right-wing lawmakers (LAWMAKERS) of aiding the enemy and putting American soldiers lives at risk.

Keep up the good work. I've rec'd a few of your posts :thumbsup:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:11 PM
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23. +1
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:14 PM
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6. Jeremy Scahill was threatened by the Pentagon
when he was reporting the story of Special Forces in Pakistan.

So, it's already happening in a lower key but the presstitutes don't report it, of course.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:17 PM
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10. LOL!
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:29 PM
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12. BTW, one can also access the wikileaks site via indymedia
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 12:31 PM by Ghost Dog
here: http://wikileaks.indymedia.org/

(not to be left out ;) - but just a dns pointer, so far, so I'm told).
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:43 PM
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21. I wouldn't worry about it. None of those sources would dare do what wikileaks did
now that they know how much trouble it will get them from the government.

Except maybe Moore of course.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:10 PM
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22. Maybe you should talk to Skinner about that.
Just going out on a limb here, but I don't think he's in the business of providing a platform for stolen intel.

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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 03:11 PM
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24. I think it was more about the US looking bad and lies exposed than anything else
The stolen classified documents were a convenient excuse and/or reason to basically shut the guy up and let us and the rest of the world go back to being told how great the US is and can do no wrong.
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