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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 03:37 PM
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PPP: Obama Tops Perry, Ties Romney. Perry has double-digit lead in race for Republican nomination.
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TUESDAY, AUGUST 23, 2011
Obama tops Perry

Rick Perry is looking increasingly like the Republican favorite for President- he led in the Iowa poll we released this morning and he leads by double digits in the national poll we'll release tomorrow. The biggest beneficiary of Perry's rise? It might be Barack Obama.

In our first national poll pitting the two Obama leads Perry 49-43. That six point advantage is pretty comparable to Obama's margin of victory over John McCain. Perry has certainly come on strong with Republicans but independents view him negatively already by an almost 2:1 margin, 29/55, and Democrats pretty universally give him bad ratings at a 10/71 spread. As a result Obama leads Perry thanks in large part to a 24 point advantage with independents at 56-32.

It's a different story for Obama when it comes to the match up against Romney. There he can only achieve a tie at 45%, and because there are a lot more undecided Republicans than Democrats in all likelihood Romney would come out ahead if voters had to go to the polls and really make a decision today. Romney does better than Perry because he holds Obama to only a 9 point advantage with independents, 48-39, and because he loses only 5% of the Republican vote to Obama where Perry loses 10%.

None of the rest of the Republican hopefuls even fare as well as Perry. Obama leads Michele Bachmann by 8 points at 50-42, Herman Cain by 10 points at 49-39, and Sarah Palin by 13 points at 53-40. This poll is more confirmation of what's become a broad trend in our polling- against Romney Obama faces a toss up and against anyone else he's in decent shape for reelection.

more...

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/08/obama-tops-perry.html
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 03:50 PM
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1. I don't understand how Bachmann gets 42%. I don't want to even imagine her being president...
Edited on Tue Aug-23-11 03:50 PM by fujiyama
Hopefully that's her ceiling though. Of course, this is just primary season so a lot of this is really media hype. I don't think many people aside from political junkies are paying that much attention yet.

What's clear is that Romney is their best bet (other than Huntsman of course who doesn't have a chance in hell getting nominated). They both make this a pretty competitive race. Romney has a lot of weaknesses but comes off saner than just about all of them. But I wouldn't dismiss Perry. He can bridge the gap with the religious nuts and the corporate types.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 03:50 PM
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2. Obama may not unite Democratic voters, but Perry sure can
ny
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 04:02 PM
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5. You got that right!
:)

There is no way any of those lunatics should even have a chance. But they will as long as there is apathy.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 03:55 PM
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3. Not surprised Obama is polling so well among Republicans.
Being one himself.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 03:58 PM
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4. This is key
from the OP:

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In our first national poll pitting the two Obama leads Perry 49-43. That six point advantage is pretty comparable to Obama's margin of victory over John McCain. Perry has certainly come on strong with Republicans but independents view him negatively already by an almost 2:1 margin, 29/55, and Democrats pretty universally give him bad ratings at a 10/71 spread. As a result Obama leads Perry thanks in large part to a 24 point advantage with independents at 56-32.

It's a different story for Obama when it comes to the match up against Romney. There he can only achieve a tie at 45%, and because there are a lot more undecided Republicans than Democrats in all likelihood Romney would come out ahead if voters had to go to the polls and really make a decision today. Romney does better than Perry because he holds Obama to only a 9 point advantage with independents, 48-39, and because he loses only 5% of the Republican vote to Obama where Perry loses 10%.

None of the rest of the Republican hopefuls even fare as well as Perry. Obama leads Michele Bachmann by 8 points at 50-42, Herman Cain by 10 points at 49-39, and Sarah Palin by 13 points at 53-40. This poll is more confirmation of what's become a broad trend in our polling- against Romney Obama faces a toss up and against anyone else he's in decent shape for reelection.

<...>


Also, via Daily Kos

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While this week's one-point downtick in President Obama's job approvals is tiny compared to http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/16/1007502/-Daily-Kos-SEIU-State-of-the-Nation-Poll:-An-ugly-drop-to-a-record-low?detail=hide">last week's seven-point drop, it's hardly what his reelection team wants to see. This record low in PPP's polling is also paired with a new record low in Gallup's daily tracker, which puts Obama at an even worse 38-54. Interestingly, though, the president's favorables moved back up a net of five points since our last poll, creating a pretty wide 11-point spread between those who like Obama personally but dislike his policies.

The thing is, of course, that everyone we poll regularly has terrible numbers. In fact, as you can see, Obama's are actually the least bad of them all!
I think we may be headed toward a very weird election where both parties are the targets of a lot of ire. Whenever a wave election approaches, a handful of desperate naysayers in the doomed party always tries to claim that it's not an anti-Dem or anti-GOP year, but rather an anti-incumbent year. It's never really been true, but maybe we'll finally see that happen in 2012.


Only 15 months until the election!!




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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 04:25 PM
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7. Another key finding from PPP poll: President Obama doing well with the Hispanic vote
'Key finding: "One big reason Obama's doing pretty well in these match ups is the Hispanic vote. Exit polls in 2008 showed him winning it by a 36 point margin over McCain but he builds on that in all of these match ups... This is a good example of what Republican strategist Mike Murphy has described as the economics vs. demographics tension for next year's election. The economy could sink Obama but at the same time an ever growing expanding Hispanic vote that he wins by a huge margin could be enough to let him eek out a second term. It's certainly propping him up on this poll."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/08/23/romney_ties_obama_in_national_poll.html
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 04:16 PM
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6. Perry's transgressions and investigations &c.:
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 06:07 PM
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8. K&R.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 11:42 PM
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9. Greatest Post of the Week
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