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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:22 AM
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Why wasn't this thread unlocked?
This thread in the video forum should not have been locked:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x580512

U.S. Radiation: Where Is All That Fukushima Radiation Going, and Why Does it Matter

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It was locked with the message:
mopinko (1000+ posts) Tue May-03-11 05:49 PM
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2. locking

unsubstantiated conspiracy theories may only be posted in the september 11 forum.
thanks


There was no conspiracy theory in the video, so I asked mopinko about it, she replied:
Re: Exactly what in this is "unsubstantiated conspiracy theories"?
From: mopinko
Date: May-03-11 07:34 PM
>Exactly what in this is "unsubstantiated conspiracy
>theories"?
>This should be unlocked.

i sent this note to the op who also sent me a pm-

first, only political videos are allowed in the video forum. but more importantly, the youtube channel that posted this video traffics in unfounded conspiracy theories. the purported "expert testimony" is from a grad student.
we just do not host this sort of thing.


First, this is obviously a political issue as well as a current news story and so is on-topic for the PV forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x9

GUIDELINES FOR THE POLITICAL VIDEOS FORUM

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This is a political website so we expect the videos to have some political content or relevance to current news stories.

<snip>

Second, there is nothing in those guidelines about "channels".
The rules say that conspiracy theory websites can be banned, but that would ban all of youtube.

Third, the purported expert really is an expert, here's a Boston Globe article from 2007:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/07/08/ecology_sleuth_is_local_global/

Ecology sleuth is local, global
Natick engineer tracks pollution
By Alison O'Leary Murray, Globe Correspondent | July 8, 2007

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The Natick resident is a renowned expert on pollution who travels the world to perform tests on air, soil, and water. Providing proof of environmental destruction has been his business since graduating from Boston University in the 1980s.

<snip>

"He really knows his stuff," said Robert Becnel, a New Orleans lawyer who worked with Kaltofen recently to document a major oil spill caused by Hurricane Katrina.

Becnel said Kaltofen's "fingerprinting" of a crude-oil spill, and his expert testimony, helped win a major class action settlement. "We hired a number of experts, and we had the highest confidence in him. He taught us a lot."

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Kaltofen's chemical engineering company, Boston Chemical Data Corp., is often called into action by the nonprofit Government Accountability Project, a Seattle-based watchdog organization.

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More details on his education and work experience is listed at http://www.bostonchemicaldata.com/

Please view the video and explain what was so objectionable about it, as mopinko's purported reasons do not apply.
It was on-topic, was not a conspiracy theory, the person really is an expert, and he isn't saying anything very controversial.

Thank you.

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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:35 AM
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1. Looks like there was some confusion here
It seems that the video was created by a legitimate (ie. non-conspiracy-theory-mongering) source, which would make it okay for posting on DU. However, the mod was correct in pointing out that it was posted from a nutjob YouTube channel, which appears to have been the cause of the confusion. I have unlocked the thread.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:47 PM
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2. Thank you! nt
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