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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:52 PM
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I fear that Obama getting Osama is letting us lose sight of important domestic issues.
What the hell has been going on in those Midwest states where the Republicans have become thugs?

Anyone else heard of these things lately? We have such a short attentioon span as Americans. I know Obama benefits from getting rid of this terrorist--and we must press that. But we can't forget all that the Republicans have been doing in the shadows within our own country, especially at the state governmental levels (such as especially voter supression laws).

I just emailed Rachel and said "okay, now let's have only 1/3 of your show on America's victory killing Osama" and the rest on the Republicans who have tried so hard (and may be trying harder now that our attention is turned) to taking away the very rights that caused us to be forced to kill Osama in the first place.

That is not to minimize the 3000 Americans killed. I just fear this may be giving cover to the right--let's celebrate Obama as the Commander in Chief with more brains than swagger. But let's continue thinking about the other important stuff as well.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:54 PM
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1. It's been 4 days.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:58 PM
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4. I think that is EXACTLY my point.
If we don't remember it quickly it goes away. I would rather forget Osama than what is happeningi in the current state governments dominated by Republicans.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:57 PM
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2. Ah yes - its a diversion from those issues.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:40 PM
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16. My thought exactly........
Notice how the Wisconsin recount has not been mentioned much since the Osama killing? And that's on here which is normally a pretty up to date web site.

BTW, there's MORE shit about electoral fraud in that Wisconsin County that "found" 14k "uncounted" votes for Prosser.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:42 PM
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17. The ol' "terra terra terra fear fear fear" thing always makes such a WONDERFUL diversion.
TPTB LOVE it!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:57 PM
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3. I have confidence Obama is right on top of the domestic issues. He's
shown several times he's always working behind the scenes, just not calling attention to it.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:01 PM
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5. Your point is well taken. But I wasn't talking about him. I was talking about us.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:36 PM
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10. Oh. Oops.
Well the Republicans aren't snoozing. Rachel said they took advantage of the focus on OBL to quietly vote on a couple of things in the House today, so YOUR point is right on!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:01 PM
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6. I feel your concern.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:49 PM
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7. I heard he wants to cut corporate taxes to 26% (from 36), not good.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:35 PM
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15. while also eliminating the loopholes. would you rather have GE pay the 0% they pay now, or 26%?
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:37 PM
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20. Can we first cut the loopholes, then reduce the rate?
How is he proposing all this go down?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:59 PM
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21. the two happen simultaneously. the theory is, while the rate goes down in percentage as a
Edited on Fri May-06-11 05:01 PM by dionysus
whole, it actually raises the rate in reality by eliminating all the loopholes that allow companies like exxon and GE to find ways to pay the 0% they currently pay now.

so while small companies that don't have GE's luxury of loopholing their tax rate to zero see a decrease, the big players who manage to pay little or nothing actually see a significant increase.

combining the two places the republicans in a position where they'd have to vote against "lowering taxes"

i think it'd be great if this can be pulled off.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:22 PM
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8. Partial closure for 9/11 is a good thing. I say it can go on as long as possible.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:26 PM
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9. No, domestic issues haven't been brushed aside. It's only been a few days.
Things are still progressing, being worked on. I think Obama and his cabinet have proven that they're pretty good at multi-tasking.

It's been a nice break from the domestic problems. And it's been a very good national reason. But you should know by now that nothing lasts long in this country. It's all soundbites for a while, until the next soundbite comes along.

New jobless figures are coming out tomorrow. By next week, it'll be the same ol' same ol'. Don't worry.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:23 AM
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11. Why say "Obama getting Osama"? The parallel construction would be
Edited on Fri May-06-11 12:24 AM by pnwmom
"Obama getting Bin Laden." Turning their last and first names into a rhyme is a subtle way of trivializing Obama's accomplishment -- and of linking the two men linguistically.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:35 AM
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12. Because there are many bin Ladens and only 1 Osama. Because he is referred to by his first name
in his culture. Not trivializing President Obama's accomplishment, but referring to Osama by the name he is best known for.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 01:17 AM
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13. Not true. Osama isn't a unique name in the Arab community.
Edited on Fri May-06-11 01:24 AM by pnwmom
Gender: Boy

Origin: Arabic

Meaning: Feline predator


http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Osama.html

Before Obama ran for President, most of the media referred to OBL as Bin Laden. After Obama began to run, there were more and more references to Osama. This wasn't an accident.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:08 PM
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14. I meant that when media says "Osama", everyone know who is meant. Regarding customs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Laden
The Arabic linguistic convention would be to refer to him as "Osama" or "Osama bin Laden", not "bin Laden" alone, as "bin Laden" is a patronymic, not a surname in the Western manner. In its expanded form, it means "Osama, son of Mohammed, son of Awad, son of Laden". According to bin Laden's son Omar bin Laden, the family's hereditary surname is "al-Qahtani" (Arabic: ‎القحطاني‎, āl-Qaḥṭānī), but bin Laden's father Mohammed bin Laden never officially registered the name.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:37 PM
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19. Since when has the U.S. media followed M.E. naming customs?
Edited on Fri May-06-11 03:41 PM by pnwmom
They call Muammar Muhammad al-Gaddafi "Gaddafi," not "Muammar."

I still think that some in the media were helping the Rethugs push the Osama/Obama link -- and then the "Osama" designation just crept into general use.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 07:38 PM
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24. That could be. I am simply explaining why I do, why some do. You could be right also. nt
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:43 PM
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18. Or, you could say,
President Obama's success in the face of bush failures, will allow us to more clearly focus on domestic issues.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1052015

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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:02 PM
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22. Yea, we should have let him go.
Or ... let's use this to CRUSH the "Obama hates America" meme that the right wing pushes as they claim that he is trying to destroy the economy even as it improves.

There's an idea!!!

Obama is making progress on ALL fronts, and killing OBL is one example. Even those who don't follow any politics know who OBL was.

Obama is moving the country forward, and this is just another example.

Repeat, repeat, repeat.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:03 PM
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23. K&R..
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 07:55 PM
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25. It's more the media reaction and public reaction in general
If we would have quietly let this die down instead of an all out PARTY FEST I think it would have been more in our nations best interest. But as Americans we can never seem to do what is in our best interest.

How about all the people homeless dead and missing in the South East? Not much being said about it on DU anyways, and I haven't watched any news in week, so I'm guessing since Bin Laden's death theres not much in the national news either.
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