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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:14 PM
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RW said they would constantly attack us, make us fearful to speak out. Media complicit.
The media has been complicit in allowing the right wing to continue their attacks against the left, and to continue to be in denial about what their actions and words have done.

You can't solve a problem if you won't admit it exists. The present state of our media is such that they have become the problem.

The leaders of this conservative movement said they would deliberately do things to cause us to be outraged, they would be as obnoxious as they needed to be. They would keep up a constant barrage against us, they would not let up.

We will maintain a constant barrage of criticism against the Left.

They wanted us to fear even opening our mouths.

"This essay is based on the belief that the truth of an idea is not the primary reason for its acceptance. Far more important is the energy and dedication of the idea’s promoters—in other words, the individuals composing a social or political movement..."

"There will be three main stages in the unfolding of this movement. The first stage will be devoted to the development of a highly motivated elite able to coordinate future activities. The second stage will be devoted to the development of institutions designed to make an impact on the wider elite and a relatively small minority of the masses. The third stage will involve changing the overall character of American popular culture..."

"Our movement will be entirely destructive, and entirely constructive. We will not try to reform the existing institutions. We only intend to weaken them, and eventually destroy them. We will endeavor to knock our opponents off-balance and unsettle them at every opportunity. All of our constructive energies will be dedicated to the creation of our own institutions..."

"We will maintain a constant barrage of criticism against the Left. We will attack the very legitimacy of the Left. We will not give them a moment's rest. We will endeavor to prove that the Left does not deserve to hold sway over the heart and mind of a single American. We will offer constant reminders that there is an alternative, there is a better way. When people have had enough of the sickness and decay of today’s American culture, they will be embraced by and welcomed into the New Traditionalist movement. The rejection of the existing society by the people will thus be accomplished by pushing them and pulling them simultaneously."

"We must create a countervailing force that is just as adept as the Left at intimidating people and institutions that are used as tools of left-wing activism but are not ideologically committed, such as Hollywood celebrities, multinational corporations, and university administrators. We must be feared, so that they will think twice before opening their mouths..."

Heubeck report


They said they would do outrageous things, they would plan things to deliberately upset people. Remember the purple band-aids during the Kerry campaign? Remember the bake sales they held in which the price depended on your race? Remember the Catch an Illegal Immigrant game?

They were planned outrages, what they called "controlled controversy."

We are seeing the fruit of such constant hostility in politics now. Building that kind of anger toward groups of people is taking its toll....those who are not mentally and emotionally sound have trouble with so much anger and hatred.

Controlled Controversy..the RW plan to build anger.

Much of this is from a Salon article called My Right Wing Degree. I could not access the archives today yet, but here is the gist of it. Here is the part about their planned outrages...designed to make us angry. They like to appear to be obnoxious, they think it is a good idea. They carry these ideas over into their Campus Leadership Program.

Unlike chapter-based political organizations, CLP clubs are unaffiliated with either the Leadership Institute or each other. According to Blackwell, this trait offers a serious advantage: "No purges." The clubs' independence also comes with the benefit of plausible deniability. "You can get away with stuff that you would take a lot of flak for doing in the College Republicans," says CLP director Dan Flynn. "Because we're independent, we can do activities that push the envelope," agrees University of Miami senior Sarah Canale, whose CLP-organized Advocates for Conservative Thought threw an affirmative action bake sale last year in which the price of a cupcake varied according to the race of its buyer. That it was controversial, she believes, was a victory in itself.

The Leadership Institute teaches the same principle. Controlled controversy -- making your point in a manner so bombastic that your opponents blow their cool -- is a Blackwell specialty. Before the 2004 Republican Convention, the conservative elder personally went to a drugstore and bought little pink heart stickers, bandages and purple nail polish. At home, he made the "Purple Heart Band-Aids" that he later distributed in Madison Square Garden to mock John Kerry's war wounds. From Blackwell's perspective, the Kerry camp's outrage at the gag was a tactical disaster. Democratic Party chairman Terry McAuliffe, Blackwell says, kept the story alive for days by "running around like a chicken with its head cut off."


They loved our anger at those band-aids. They loved that we were upset.

Eric Heubeck laid out the plans of this new conservative movement years ago. I found a copy still posted at Yurica Report. They said they would control the media as well as keep up an attack against the left.

I can not find the original as the Free Congress site is down now. This was a statement at that site. I posted it in 2003 and was able to find the quote.


Our mission is to increase our influence over the key cultural institutions

SNIP...."However, we don’t need to wait for a generation to pass before we can start acting. For example, we can train college students to confront the leftism they experience on campus, in large part as a way to reinforce their own beliefs, to bolster the idea that the traditionalist vision is one worth fighting for. We can also train them to appreciate what a traditionalist society should look like and to create campus communities that reflect those ideals. College students are in the best position to be preparing themselves to create alternative cultural institutions after they have graduated. At the very least, no matter what line of work they go into, they will be prepared to create traditionalist communities among the coworkers and other acquaintances they meet through work.

It should be understood that when we say we will take control of the "key cultural institutions," we do not mean MCA Universal, The New York Times, Harvard University, or Simon & Schuster. What we mean is the entertainment industry, the news media, academia, and the publishing industry. Our goal is not to infiltrate organizations opposed to our world-view, but to directly compete with them, and eventually, to make them irrelevant. The Left was able to take control of these organizations because the believers in traditional values who ran them were complacent and lacked vision. The modern-day Left is not complacent, and is more than willing to use its power to crush any challengers before they have a chance to become established within these organizations; hence the need to bypass the existing organizations altogether......"END SNIP

DU archives from 2003


Read the bolded paragraph at least twice. They wanted to control the news media, academia, and the publishing industry. Seems to me they did pretty well at accomplishing their goals.

The media is almost protective of the right wing after the AZ shooting.

Not surprisingly, Karl Rove worked closely with the Weyrich group. From Time 2001:

Not surprisingly, Karl Rove is closely allied with this group of people. This is from a Time Magazine article in 2001.

The Bush administration is apparently quite cozy with Weyrich. This quote from a Time magazine article is apropos, Time Magazine wrote this:

"Each Wednesday Rove dispatches a top administration official to attend the regular conservative-coalition lunches held at Paul Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation. When activists call his office with a problem, Rove doesn't pass them off to an aide. He often responds himself. When Weyrich heard a few weeks ago that Bush's budget slashed funding for a favorite project called the Police Corps, which gives scholarships and training to police cadets, he complained to the White House. To Weyrich's surprise, Rove called back. “We've taken care of it,” Rove said. “The problem is solved.” Weyrich, who says his memos to the Reagan and Bush Sr. White Houses were rarely read, was impressed. “That,” he gushes, “is what it means to have friends in the White House.”

Sunday, Apr. 22, 2001
The Busiest Man in the White House
BY JAMES CARNEY AND JOHN F. DICKERSON


The original website is down now, Paul Weyrich's Free Congress site...but the entire Heubeck article is preserved at the Yurica Report.

Quite long:

A Program for the New Traditionalist Movement

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:16 PM
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1. Incited by Rush, Glenn, Sarah, Dick Armey etal and fulfillment was provided by the U.S. media. nt
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:17 PM
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2. Sickening read.. but I think I missed the overt VIOLENCE threat.
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 04:18 PM by JustFiveMoreMinutes
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:18 PM
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3. Those with emotional problems don't need overt...just the atmosphere is enough.
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:40 PM
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8. Ugh, unfortunately part of the public speak 'I dodged a bullet that time'
If you don't stop that, I'm going to KILL YOU!

My wife is going to KILL ME for being late.

etc etc.

There are plenty of overt violent diatribes going on today, that the inferred should take second turn.

But IMHO and that counts for little! :)
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:38 PM
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59. You move from thread to thread
defending the righties don't you?
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:28 PM
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31. they have developed a very calculated way with words w/help from their
lawyers to give them "plausible deniability". You need to add Dominionism to their list of controlled groups-they specialize in steeple jacking and turning churches into anti-science hot-beds. also clearly, vouchers and the Billionaire Boys Club belongs on that list.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:07 AM
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45. exactly right...New Tradionalist Movement and Dominionism operate from exact same page
.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:35 PM
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57. It's all courtesy of Frank Luntz
the conservative word whore. He'll say anything for a buck.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:30 PM
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6. Here you go
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:42 PM
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9. Now THAT is SICK!
ugh.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:20 PM
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4. OK City, Anthrax attacks, and the assassination of abortion providers has to be ignore by the Media
The same Astroturfing organzations that support the Tea Party in opposition to Health Reform also advertises heavily during commercial breaks of news programs.

Each represents and arm of the other.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:28 PM
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5. That's why the "we just need to expose them" meme is stupid
First, we have no mass media access. 2nd, the filthy slime that make up the repukes don't have any shame or any conscience. Every last one of them is a sociopath.
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:43 PM
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10. y'mean like 10,000 war protestors get no coverage, but 1,000 TPrs
.. headline the evening news?

How can that be changed (peacefully)?
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:58 PM
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15. 3rd, they have unlimited money to spend on media and contributions. We are
in a deep deep hole and I hope the "machine's" obvious and desperate propaganda today is noticed by more than just the left. Those in power are working overtime to avoid meaningful discussion of what's going on.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:36 PM
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7. I like the way they're talking out of both sides of their mouth.
Claiming it's a problem to both sides, yet changing nothing in their rhetoric.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:39 PM
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11. It's infuriating.
I can't watch stuff like that right now. It's like the news media was issued talking points.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:40 PM
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12. K&R
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:53 PM
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13. Remember the memos on how to disrupt public meetings with verbal abuse? nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:58 PM
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14. Here you go....in full living color. How to disrupt Democratic meetings....
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/31/recess-harassment-memo/

"Right-Wing Harassment Strategy Against Dems Detailed In Memo: ‘Yell,’ ‘Stand Up And Shout Out,’ ‘Rattle Him’

This morning, Politico reported that Democratic members of Congress are increasingly being harassed by “angry, sign-carrying mobs and disruptive behavior” at local town halls. For example, in one incident, right-wing protesters surrounded Rep. Tim Bishop (D-NY) and forced police officers to have to escort him to his car for safety.

This growing phenomenon is often marked by violence and absurdity. Recently, right-wing demonstrators hung Rep. Frank Kratovil (D-MD) in effigy outside of his office. Missing from the reporting of these stories is the fact that much of these protests are coordinated by public relations firms and lobbyists who have a stake in opposing President Obama’s reforms.

The lobbyist-run groups Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks, which orchestrated the anti-Obama tea parties earlier this year, are now pursuing an aggressive strategy to create an image of mass public opposition to health care and clean energy reform. A leaked memo from Bob MacGuffie, a volunteer with the FreedomWorks website Tea Party Patriots, details how members should be infiltrating town halls and harassing Democratic members of Congress:"

And FL's own governor funded the town hall health care riots as well.

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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:59 PM
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16. this should have been an eye-opener. BTW...you are fast! nt
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 05:59 PM by wiggs
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:15 PM
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21. I keep a lot of stuff handy. : )
:)
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:00 PM
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30. It should be. This stuff isn't secret but rather it seems a river in Egypt from top to bottom in the
Democratic party.

We will not allow them to be accountable no matter how out of bounds their behavior.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:17 PM
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22. Ultimately the point is to discourage democrats from popping up our heads..
Or even running for office.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:32 PM
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23. Yep. Because when we DO speak out..........
we win. We have the ACTUAL truth on our side after all. All they have is their made up reality.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:26 PM
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26. Time was the labor movement's
intelligence apparatus would get wind of when Pinkertons or other company thugs planned to disrupt a union rally. The unions would post their own security throughout the crowd. When the thugs began to cause trouble, the unions guys would take care of them. I think freedom is a militant business, and while its fruits are shared by the, innocent, the passive and the pacifistic, they are not its warriors and cannot secure its blessings for themselves.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:45 PM
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27. It's probably PAST time for something like this..........
I wish we'd have done it during the town hall meetings.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:25 AM
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46. Exposure of this shit is what the media SHOULD be doing, but they choose to magnify it
and call it "exciting, fresh, fun, grassroots, real America, etc"

and then when the inevitable happens, they wring their hands & say "Who could have ever imagined that "......." would have happened"...and then they cue up the latest Lindsay Lohan nonsense & throw to the weather guy...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:34 AM
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48. Well said.
:hi:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:04 AM
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44. Exactly this things started with the Media sensationalization of townhall meetings
That was then -- that was the glorification of RW passion (not to mention the dissemination of RW lies like the Death Panels by all of the major Media resources).

Now that the left has something to be passionate about, the Media wants to tamp down and reveal how unrational liberal passions can be. If only liberals had more money to Astroturf their passions, then the money-grubbing media would pay attention.

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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:59 PM
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17. kick n/t
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:03 PM
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18. Once again, can they name JUST ONE modern lefty hate radio jock?
Or TVEE millionaire that spews hate from the left!?!?! This is pure desperation by Repukes and their quest to destroy modern society.
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bl968 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:11 PM
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19. Complicit?
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 06:12 PM by bl968
Perhaps they are, but the left is equally complicit. They let the media and the right set the terms, tone, and direction of the debate. Instead of correcting the media and the right when they come out and say something that is patently untrue, they let it slide.

If they say something that is not true, say so call a lie or misstatement of the record for what it is.

If they label something a death panel, you say that these are not death panels, our position on the issue is that it is about giving a measure of choice back to the patients.

If they say social security is going broke, and benefits need to be cut, then rebut that bring the facts into it. Then turn it back on them. "I don't agree with you on the statement that social security is going broke, but if I was to concede the point, which I don't. The cause may be the continuation of unwise tax breaks for the rich letting them evade their Christian responsibility to help those who are unable to help themselves.

Etc.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:15 PM
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20. I am all over the butts of the Democrats for the way they concede every issue.
But the left does not go around issuing threats and threatening to make people afraid to speak.

Our Democratic party has failed to stand up and speak out as they should.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:45 PM
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24. Right Wing blogger urges killing Olbermann, after the tragedy
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:24 AM
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36. I missed that. Was she writing it in humor or seriously?
It says she is a humor writer, and that is not very funny right now.

Thanks for sharing...did not see that.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 06:41 AM
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40. Does it matter? It's still despicable hatred and vile metaphor that needs to be dropped. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:14 AM
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42. You miss my point.
In this day and time it could have been an attempt at satire.

I was in no way defending it.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:04 PM
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25. We don't have a "mass" media, we have mass medias
that are all looking for more and more revenue. They are
willing to pay $40 million a year to incite hate, murder and
mass confusion.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 08:07 PM
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28. Yikes! K&R
Bookmarking. This should be pinned somewhere prominent.

No, better yet. This info itself should be a big viral topic of public discussion. Everyone should know about this, and be talking about what they think of it. I'd like to see the RW defend this, if John & Jane Q. Public had read it.

The public might feel a little "conned" and manipulated by this blueprint for takeover? Seeing as how the public has responded as planned (by these puppetmasters), that might not sit well. I wonder what they'd think about themselves being herded into this dreamed-up "traditionalist society"?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 08:39 PM
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29. Excellent post


You have spelled out and displayed the reasons so many of us here have said: you cannot win being "nice" or complacent with these misguided people.

This does not mean you have to be violent or hate-filled.

But we must all call them on their bullshit and never let up.


It's exhausting to imagine keeping up with the slime, lies and threats they spew, but it's the only chance we have right now.


We have to strike while the iron is hot. It is hot now. It is time to talk seriously about how we want this democratic republic to run.

on lies and fear and assassination?

or on the rule of law.


I hope that many, many teabaggers are thinking tonight about Christina Taylor Green and whether their hatred was worth it. I hope they feel a buyer's remorse that cuts them to the core.

I hope all of us step up and cry out for an end to the violent rhetoric.


K&R






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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:46 PM
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32. Nice post.
Yes, they should be thinking about whether their hatred was worth it.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 11:01 PM
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33. Here's hoping that borderline teabaggers are defecting in droves


Here's hoping they don't want to be associated with this kind of violence


If so, there could be hope for our country yet...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:07 AM
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34. I know some in our area who just might wake up.
I was really stunned to hear them spouting the teaparty nonsense. Hopefully they will realize they need to pay more attention.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:50 AM
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35. That's the thing


not paying attention...

I want teabaggers to have all the freedom of speech they can stand. I believe in the voting booth and in the political process, and I would never seek to use a firearm (or threaten to use one) to disrupt a political event.

That Bloody Beck, Bloody Rush and Bloody Bill have been allowed to threaten, intinmidate, joke about death, etc., and teabaggers lapped it up makes me sick.

They need to wake up and decide whether they want to live in the US of A or in Rwanda. They have been choosing Rwanda for some time.

It's time to decide they prefer the rule of law to the rules of violence and hatred.


Enough is enough.




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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:34 AM
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37. Sowing the seeds of hatred and fear
and it bore this bitter fruit.

Fantastic job of showing this corrupt pattern of behavior, madfloridian.

K&R.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:39 AM
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38. Please...
Those among us who haven't figured out that the Corporate Megalomaniacs have usurped our global economy and now drive every significant GLOBAL economic decision had better get a clue soon. The Corporate Megalomaniacs are sitting in their insular and well-appointed mansions or boardrooms, rubbing their hands together and chuckling with glee. Overpopulation? No problem! A few well-placed rabble-rousers vomiting divisive hate-mongering and fear-mongering rhetoric, and people die. Problem solved.

Despite an urge to point out more ways the Corporate Megalomaniacs control and dehumanize us (how about radical income inequity? ...enhanced interrogation techniques?), I will simply adjure: read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein. REALLY read it! We the People are smart and resourceful. Surely, we can figure out how to throw off the shackles of this global economic slavery. A good first step will be rejecting divisive, hate-mongering and fear-mongering rhetoric--in ALL venues.

BTW, we may feel justified in pointing out how "crazy" are radical conservatives, and the poor unfortunates who unreservedly believe the rhetoric of the likes of Beck, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, but these are our fellow citizens! AND, so many of them are sadly gullible (like my sister), un- or under-educated, and fearful.

For example, I cannot begin to understand how my sister believes all the lies she hears on her 'conservative' radio station, but I know that she believes them whole-heartedly (if I refute her assertions with facts and supportive data, she asserts that she doesn't have all those dry figures to throw around, but she knows that what she's heard on her 'shows' is true!)

So, the propagandists serving their corporate masters have succeeded in convincing a significant portion of our population that liberals intend to destroy this nation. It's not a stretch to anticipate that some of these unfortunates will commit acts of violence, just as Loughner did.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:16 AM
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43. ....
Not sure what the "please" means. I did not point out they were crazy, just that the propaganda had been very misleading and ugly.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:32 AM
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47. hmm...
The 'please' was a request that DUers understand who is the 'man behind the curtain' manipulating the impressionable, fearful, hate-driven radical conservatives.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:47 AM
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39. and then some right here in DU say we shouldn't point the finger
at the RW for what happened. :eyes: :argh:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 08:20 AM
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41. The Right-wing reactionaries send their trolls here to try and water down the argument
distract the conversation, change the tone, incite, ridicule, divide and conquer.

This is all coordinated by professional operatives that drive their message.

Learn from them.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:36 AM
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49. "We must be feared, so that they will think twice before opening their mouths"
SO American. :patriot:
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:39 AM
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50. Good Job Madfloridan.
I saved some of those links for future references....interisting and so Machiavellian.
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:28 AM
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51. K&R
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:57 AM
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52. The Salon article My Right Wing Degree is available today.
Quick loading today at Salon. It's a good read, interesting.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/05/25/blackwell/print.html?pn=2

""Can anyone tell me," asks Gourley, a veteran mock electioneer, "why you don't want the polling place in the cafeteria?"

Stephen, a shy antiabortion activist sitting toward the rear of the class, raises his hand: "Because you want to suppress the vote?"

"Stephen has the right answer!" Gourley exclaims, tossing Stephen his prize, a copy of Robert Bork's "Slouching Toward Gomorrah."

The students, strait-laced kids from good colleges, seem unconvinced. The lesson -- that with sufficient organization, the act of voting becomes less a basic right than a tactical maneuver -- doesn't sit easy with some students at first. Gourley, a charismatic senior from South Dakota and the treasurer of the College Republican National Committee, assures them: "This is not anti-democracy. This is not shady. Just put the polling place somewhere where you might have to put a little bit of effort into voting." The rest, Gourley explains, is just a matter of turnout."
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:13 PM
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53. Karl Rove must be the most powerful person ever in this country
He does his dirty work behind the scenes every single day and keeps on getting away with it. He never has to go to jail (like Abramoff, DeLay, etc.) and must by now be feeling omnipotent.
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hapkidogal Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:32 PM
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54. The Corporate Media
As money has taken over our system the corporations have taken the media. Journalism is a rare thing now. Rachel Maddow fact finds and checks but she is one person. I read and know what is occurring.Sadly we have too many who hide their head in the sand in this country.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:41 PM
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55. Agree, it is sick, but to be a nitpicker, Kerry wasn't exactly very "left wing."
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:45 PM
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56. Ah, yes! The "Purple Band-aid"
How could we forget?



Mocking a decorated war hero to suppport a war deserter. I never could figure that one out.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:36 PM
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58. Huge K&R
Like I said. An entire industry as sprung up dedicated to destroying left of center thought, people, anything and everything 'left'. The big problem is that progressive thought and legislation has improved the lives of Americans and it is responsible for much of what remains that we can still be proud of about this country. They will have to live with the results.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:02 PM
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60. radio monopoly is their most important tool - support dupnik (link)
show support for sheriff dupnik http://pimasheriff.org/contacts/

in his attack on limbaugh/radio or the MSM will divert blame to internet and it will be used to push for internet restrictions.

limbaugh is after him and will have the teabagger/dittoheads screaming into the phones.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:08 PM
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61. Excellent post...thanks
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:21 PM
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62. Yep, that and the easy access by anyone to guns and ammo. nt
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:26 PM
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63. Just go to the comments section of any news site.
You will see the the vilification of liberals is about all there is being posted. The violent rhetoric and threats are there for anyone to see. And none of the sites seem at all interested in discouraging it.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:44 PM
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64. I'll keep saying it: we can continue complaining or we can ACT by demanding
true election reform and that the Fairness Doctrine be reinstated. Unless we achieve BOTH we will lose even more of this Country to the far Right. Maybe some come here because all they want to do is complain, but I know that others would actually like to see some POSITIVE change come about.

It takes action folks, and posting on DU isn't enough. Write to your reps and the media TODAY!
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lafayettelonewolf Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 03:07 PM
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65. Not suprising...
So that's how they get us riled up....you know, it's quite funny when the majority of these losers blame the "drive-by" media for all the mess that has happened. All they're needing is some sort of straw man to blame.
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 06:20 PM
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66. Seems to me the shooter, sick or not, was behaving as a Fascist. Hate speech
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 06:20 PM by jtuck004
and campaigns, disrupting public speech or subtle threats to violence, especially with no real plan, are far different than passionate disagreements about policy and direction, not left or right in our political system

Aren't these people who try to use violence, (disrupting political rallies or using targets on opponents) fascists, or at least displaying behavior that would be called fascist? Way beyond and a separate group from the few people in the two major parties who peacefully and with some class conduct the politics of the world?

It seems to me if we (and others) made it a mission to segment and marginalize that behavior there would be less likelihood of 9 year old kids getting shot as, potentially, the result of a political debate. Call them fascist, not Right Wing, RW, conservative.




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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:21 PM
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68. When the atmosphere is anger-filled, hate-filled....
then those with emotional problems can't cope.

The right wing groups have consciously and deliberately built an atmosphere filled with anger and hate, and the left has not.

Thus the responsibility lies with them.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:17 PM
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67. Guns against Obama: Joe Wilson's "You Lie" outburst engraved on semi-auto rifles
Guns against Obama: Joe Wilson's "You Lie" outburst engraved on semi-auto rifles

(per the original post, the meaning is clear)

http://www.free-times.com/index.php?cat=1992209084141467&act=post&pid=11861101110850039

A South Carolina gun and accessories company is selling semi-automatic rifle components inscribed with “You lie” – a tribute to the infamous words of 2nd District Republican Congressman Joe Wilson when he shouted at President Barack Obama during a congressional speech about national health care reform in the fall of 2009.

“Palmetto State Armory would like to honor our esteemed congressman Joe Wilson with the release of our new ‘You Lie’ AR-15 lower receiver,” reads a portion of the company’s website.

The product “is neither endorsed nor affiliated with Joe Wilson or his campaign,” according to a line of text at the bottom of the page. A picture of Wilson holding a rifle and standing in the company's gun shop appears on the same page.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 03:46 PM
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69. So much for dumping on 'conspiracy theorists'
This fits every definition of a conspiracy. The exact kind of conspiracy that is the motivation for our country having anti-conspiracy laws.

"We will not try to reform the existing institutions. We only intend to weaken them, and eventually destroy them."
Congress is an institution. The Presidency is an institution. The Federal court system is an institution. The Federal Reserve is an institution. America the country is nothing more or less than its institutions. This is, in simple terms, levying war against them.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 07:28 PM
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70. Exactly. They were conspiring to destroy existing institutions.
I really don't know what else to call it. Scary stuff.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:01 PM
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71. Their plan would make some kind of sense if there were
an actual Left in this country but there hasn't been a real significant Left since around 1919.
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