Explosive allegations from Harry Reid: Bain investor said Romney paid no taxes for 10 years

[Divine Discontent]

Romney still refuses to release tax returns before 2010

http://www.examiner.com/article/harry-reid-bain-investor-said-romney-paid-no-taxes-for-10-years-no-proof-given

According to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), the real reason Mitt Romney isn't releasing more tax returns is because he allegedly paid no taxes for ten years.

Reid made the claim in an article published Tuesday at the Huffington Post, but offered no proof whatsoever, saying he was told this by an unnamed person who had allegedly invested with Bain Capital.

"Saying he had 'no problem with somebody being really, really wealthy,' Reid sat up in his chair a bit before stirring the pot further. A month or so ago, he said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office," the Huffington Post reported.


"Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid claimed the person said.


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Damn Mittens, just release your tax returns and take the bite outta Senator Reid's explosive 1st-person accusation of what he was told! Otherwise, you're toast with independents who have a functioning quality brain!

Repubs hate Obama, so there's no hoping for their votes (unless they're from extreme evangelical churches that cringe at the thought of a Mormon in the White House guiding a rise in that belief's national power).


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1. I don't think many Republicans will care about this.

Republicans have spent a lot of time and money convincing their base that society is unfair to rich folk and that, in general, taxes are bad and communistic.

The Republicans who don't like this will be a minority, IMO. And, even if they don't like it, they will vote for him because he is a Republican and also because (this week) he is anti abortion. A few may stay home, but that is it.

I don't get the "undecided" voters at all, so I have no clue what they will make of this.

This may, however, help fire up Democrats and get more of them to the polls.

Bottom line> can't hurt Dems and may help them.

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2. P.S. Either Reid is correct or the returns would show something even worse.

People who have nothing to hide hidenothing. (Dr. Phil McGraw--don't like him, but he does say things in a quotable way.).

Clearly, Romney thinks the returns will damage his Presidential hopes.

As George Will noted, the cost to Romney of not releasing the returns is obvious (and becoming more obvious by the day). Therefore, Romney and his campaign advisors must think that the cost to Romney of releasing the returns will be even greater. And they would not think that unless the returns contained something far less than positive.

No one believes Willard or Lovey when they say that they are not releasing them only because "you people" already have seen everything we need to see or that releasing them will only give the other side more to pick at.

Hello. EVERYthing a candidate does or does not do during a campaign only gives the other side something to pick at. It's called U,S. politics.

If that didn't stop you from making an ass of youself abroad, why should it stop you from releasing your returns? And, if you are afraid to tell voters what you told the IRS, why in hell should they vote for you?

If your returns give the other side fodder to pick at, voters have a right to know what it is.

So, stop the lame excuses, Willard. You are only incriminating yourself with them. And they're no better when Lovey says them than when you do.

But, here is the sociopathic part: He has known since at least the early 1990s that he wanted the Presidency more than anything else, except maybe immortality for himself and his family.

And he has had a ton of money all that time. But, despite his wealth, he is so cheap that he wanted to duck every single cent of U.S. taxes he could, even if that meant paying taxes to another country. It was what led him to attempt to cheat Utah out of a few dollars, which almost cost him the ability to run for Governor of Massachusetts because of residency and risked a criminal prosecution in Utah--WHILE COVETING THE OVAL OFFICE.

That is not just cheap, folks. It's sociopathological. I don't want a sociopath for President.

[Enthusiast]

3. These miscreants can never get enough.

It's greed on steroids.

[Leopolds Ghost]

4. Hehehehehe.

IT BEGINS

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5. Is that a dressage pony by any chance?

Today, I looked up Michael Ian Black because he is promoting a book that he wrote book with Meghan McCain (hey, we all have to make a living).

On his blog it says that, to show Romney can relate to the rest of us, his wife's horse would be crunking at the Olympics.

I thought that was pretty funny.

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6. I love it! And Reid's response to "put up or shut up" from Mittens. Tells him: release your returns

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7. If Reid were mistaken, Willard would have said so. In not saying so,

Willard may just as well have said, "Reid hit the nail on the head about ONE of the reasons I've been refusing to release my returns."

Knowing Romney as I know him from having survived his "governing," that is the least of it. I am betting he has other reasons for wanting to keep those returns secret.


This guy has lived his life based on the apparent assumption that he can do anything he wants and then be accountable for only the things he chooses to be accountable for.

What he did with his Utah state taxes while intending to run for Governor of Massachusetts is evidence that he cannot resist a chisel, even when he knows he will be under public scrutiny. Like the $77000 "business" deduction he took for the care and feeding of an animal he now claims is just about a medical companion animal for his wife.

Maybe legal technicalities allow him to have it both ways with the IRS. However, as a moral and practical matter, you cannot tell one story while trying to seem relatable--even sympathetic--to voters but an entirely different story when it is time to pony up to the IRS. (Pun not originally intended, but I enjoyed it once I spotted it.)

Most voters, whether healthy or sick, can't afford them some dressage horse trained for the Olympics, no matter how much better it makes them feel. Animal owners who pay their own vet and pet food bills without expecting or seeking a tax subsidy from their fellow state and federal taxpayers are not going to appreciate this.

Either the horse was the business venture of a very wealthy man, showing how totally unlike most of us he is, or the (somewhat) more sympathetic and relatable quasi-medical companion animal for his physically afflicted wife and Romney chiseled the government. Again. Which is it?

And that was in the return he DID release, a return prepared while he was running for President and knowing he would release it. Imagine what is in the returns he refuses to release, no matter how bad the refusal is making him look to voters?

In fact, maybe if someone digs into the returns of Bain and Romney far enough, we will find that Bain Capital while Romney was the sole sotckholder, and/or Romney individually, or both, paid less than zero.

Moreover, doesn't this point out the huge national folly and massive individual unfairness of the tax policy he and the elected officials in his Party have been trying to foist off on the 99%?

I mean, 100% of their state or federal salaries, office rent, staff salaries, security, "fact-finding" trips and only God knows what else, etc. etc. comes from state or federal tax money. And then, of course, there are the massive national "defense" and national security budgets, if nothing else.

Therefore, people paying zero in taxes cannot be an acceptable number, even to them. And saying paying taxes is only for the 99% can't be acceptable to them either. After all, they are not going to get elected based only the votes of the 1% or, in Romney's case, the .000001%.

[Divine Discontent]

8. whew... as knowledgeable as I am, you always have about 100% more info. :)

you should be working for a candidate.



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9. Thanks, DD. It's only a combination of having lived in Massachusetts and having Google.

I was here (Massachusetts) when Mittens campaigned against Kennedy and in 2002, when the Secretary of State challenged his ability to run for Governor and also throughout the four years we laughingly refer to as Romney's term as Governor.

Laughingly, because he was not so much Governor of Massachusetts as Presidential candidate and disser in chief of Massachusetts as he traveled all over the country trying to get himself positioned to run for President in the future. Everything our Governor said about his state was all about the snark, the cheap shot and the mean girls giggle.

As though the Massachusetts were some kind of looney bin and the people who elected him were the loonies.

(Finally, even the RW local media called him on it and he did stop immediately.)

Since then, I have such a distrust of the man that anything he says gets me Googling. And, at least half the time, I find he was indeed lying.

It's funny you suggest working for a candidate, though, because I just suggested, via email, that my buddy in California try to look into that. He has so much knowledge of American history, including politics, and he has a startling ability to think quickly and brilliantly on his feet, no matter what you throw at him. Awesome ability, literally. I am certainly in awe of it.

And he can do research like nobody's business--and I don't mean just Googling, like me. He is also a lot happier with today's Democrats than I have become.

But, I have a feeling that a zillion people are looking for jobs like that. And, they probabloy go only to people who are already very well connected, not to mention already totally trusted. (An election year is not the time to show you knicker to a new friend!)

So cool to get a compliment like that though, especially from someone like you. Thanks so much. It lifted me way up and will no doubt make my day.

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10. :) YW. Keep up the good work. It matters.

Yes, I also was thinking about getting involved with helping a candidate, but, you're right on about it being too late to start this time around. Now, all that can be done is routine support for the county election HQ doing what needs done. Regardless, we help each other out when we post, because even if 20 people learn something they didn't know, they may tell 5 others. Anything positive to keep the hard-right out of power is good! They are scary, and sound so relaxed about their plans to destroy America through austerity and social dogma.



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11. Oh, please don't let me discourage you. It's probably not too late

to volunteer this time around--only too late to be hired in the kind of top level position I think my buddy deserves and could do well at. And I may even be wrong about that. I am only saying what seems sensible to me. I have no inside info and could be 100% wrong.

My California political buddy volunteered in Boston for Kerry in 2004. My buddy was asked to, basically, be a chauffeur for someone who had heaced the campaign of a Democrat who had once tried for the nomination, but did not get it. It was only driving the guy from his hotel to the convention center and back again. Not far, but he had to wait for the guy and be available whenever.

Anyway, he asked the guy if he had any extra passes he would be willing to give him so he could observe the workings of convention while he waited. He did, and my friend got to wander around the Convention at will, snapping photos of Hillary, Michael Moore, etc. on his phone.

It was probably a horrific security move on the part of the guy who gave passes to a new volunteer, but there was no danger from my friend. He adores Democrats even though he knows things could be better.

One night, the guy was going to meet with someone from the Kerry camp, so he gave my friend the ticket for his own seat--on the platform!! As far as my friend was concerned, he may as well have given my friend a seat in heaven.

So, ya never know what may come from it. Go for it!