Reply #51: I avoid predictions in situations like this, but I'll go out on a limb here... [View All]

[rasputin1952]

Niclolaus will not go to jail, but this investigation will get larger, she will be forced from office, there will be a court ordered handcount, Prosser will lose...and there will be even more pressure to recall those that are being pushed into the recall alley now. Walker will be ousted in January and the GOP will essentially die in WI (and perhaps in a few other states).

Americans like to believe their elections are a s close to legitimate as possible. We do not take lightly the thought that either party will go to overt means of the manipulation of our votes, in fact, most Americans of either party, or Independent get highly irate when they trudge into the elements to do their duty whay some people in offices, or through software, decide that "some people voted wrong". The Republicans appear to be a party that cannot win without cheating on some level, just as the Democrats were back 80 years ago.

When i drive elderly people to the polls in November, we do not discuss politics, on this day, it is personal, whether they vote D/R/I is their choice. I like many others will do what we can to get people to polling places...what ALL of us want is for the votes to be tallied honestly and whomever the winner is, whether we like it or not, we want to know the effort we put into this to be taken seriously and honestly.

I think that there should be a penalty for vote manipulation, (not error, that can happen), but overt manipulation. If convicted, any official from the AG to the precinct Captain, should face a minimum of loss of voting rights and be imprisoned for 20 years without possibility of parole, when released, they would not be allowed to hold a job that has any connection, overtly or under contract to any municipal, county, state or national entity.

I've worked the polls, it's not an easy job. In Kingman AZ, we were given specific instructions. We set out the "No electioneering" tapes and signs, we kept the lines moving as quickly as we could, we were genial, thanking people for coming out to do their Civic Duty. We were proud we could help and dour part. At one point in the late morning, a small group showed up with a bullhorn and "Vote Reagan" signs, right at he entrance of the polling place. Our instructions were to ask them to move beyond the tape, I did so and was refused. The next line on the instructions had a number to call for just such instances, which I did. I kid you not, within 10 minutes, the AZ Dept of Public Safety showed up, asked me if I had asked the group to leave, to which I answered, "yes". Immediately, cuffs came out, signs and bullhorn were tossed into the trunk of one of the state vehicles and every member of the group was arrested, given their Rights, and placed in vehicles, taken to the Courthouse, and sat out the election in jail, (oddly, none of them had voted before this demonstration). The judge showed no mercy...each were offered a fine of $500 fine if they plead guilty, or a trial, to which the judge added, "if convicted, you will lose your privilege to vote in Mohave County and the State of Arizona for 5 years."

For the record, if a D group had showed up, I would have done the same thing...to me, a person's vote is sacrosanct. I may lose, but I if I do, I want to lose honestly.