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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 02:35 AM
Response to Reply #238
250. A response to the responders response
Let's cut and paste, shall we?

"How do you feel about people that are of the opinion that you are a crazied idiot and spam the boards with these "opinions". Would you be happy if I did that? No you wouldn't. The problem isn't that you have an opinion, it's that you have no tact. "

1) I didn’t "Spam" the boards. I replied to posts on a thread. If you don’t like it. TOUGH. This is a moderated forum. I had at least one of my posts deleted and I would assume it was because i was out of line and needlessly insulting. Fine! I deserved it! The rest of my posts remain. This was not up to you. It was up to the moderators who have apparently determined that i have yet to cross that line again. There is another poster on this thread that has had almost ALL of his posts deleted. Was he spamming? Or just out of line too? (BTW, he was on YOUR side)
2) If folks are of the Opinion that i am a "Crazed idiot" SO F*CKING BE IT!!! Most of the posters on DU think the same of our president! What's your point? Baah...who bleeding cares what your point is.
3)If the problem is MERELY that i have no tact, why hasn’t EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR RESPONSES TO MY POSTS been simply "Heretic? You have no tact"
Hmmmmm?

When a Christian spouts off about why christianity is right and all else is wrong they are immediately accused of trying to convert everyone. That christian is shoving their beliefs down everyones throats.
BUT WHEN YOU DO IT, oh well that's different, you are innocent.


1) (I particularly like this bit: "When a Christian spouts off about why Christianity is right and all else is wrong "

Is it? Really? Truly? No other path to paradise will suffice? No other way to grace and enlightenment comes close? Not even a LITTLE BIT? wow......how cool is that? If you think about that for even a NANOSECOND longer than your normally dogmatic mindset might allow, it is possible you could see just how incredibly asinine that position is and why...oh...maybe just a little...why others might get a wee upset.
One other thing.....when you tell a complete stranger that YOUR way to paradise is right and theirs is wrong, YOU BECOME THE ARROGANT ASSHOLE. Not the atheist who has no such interest. I never said you or any other Christians faith was WRONG. The point i have been trying to make since my first post on this topic is that the faiths of the god of Abraham (you DO know which ones those are, don’t you, Blue?) ARE BASED ON MYTH AND ALLEGORY. That’s all i have been saying. It isn’t just my opinion and i don’t say it cause i hate religions or the faithful. I say it because it is historically correct. If you don’t like that either - TOUGH!

Now for the fun part!!

Blue Chill cut and pasted the following together suggesting i said it as a statement:

"I merely look forward to the day when....mankind will evolve to the point that all belief in the gods...will be in a...Nice, quaint little historical dustbin."

with the convenient ...'s in between different segments. It is misleading and a cheap shot. Here is the entire text of what i originally wrote; (In response to an accusation he made of me)

"What the hell are you talking about? Who wants to force faith into a dark corner? This is the argument of a hysteric. I merely look forward to the day when that inevitability occurs. You don’t like that. Tough. Suck it up, believer. Sooner or later, mankind will evolve to the point that all belief in the gods of the ancients will be regarded in the same way as the gods of the Romans and the Greeks are. Nice, quaint little historical dustbin."


i don’t know...i read it and read it again and for the life of me, i cant see how i wanted to "try to twist freedom of into some rule that forces faith into dark corners where they never have to see it."

All i said was how i PERSONALLY look forward to the day when that INEVITABILITY OCCURS! That will certainly not be in MY lifetime. It probably wont be for another thousand years. But it will happen or much of the human race will most likely annihilate themselves arguing over whose god has a bigger penis whilst the folks in control will live fat, smart and happy watching it all on Satellite from their yachts in the Adriatic.

Has religion done good things? OF COURSE!!!!! I NEVER SAID IT HADNT!!! Has it been good for mankind in general? Well....i think the jury is still out, but suffice to say, if all men merely had a proper, decent, humanistic personal ethic and followed the golden rule (being kind to your fellow man, do unto others, etc. Which btw, as a philosophical ideal, predates the bible by THOUSANDS of years) it would make all of the efforts of the church and religions in general entirely superfluous.

"When the way you voice your beliefs are insulting to all those that think differently YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. Any of us could take that approach on this issue, but it isn't right."

Voicing an opinion or beliefs that are or might be insulting to those that think differently IS THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If i say something that you find insulting TOUGH!!!!! This isn't kindergarten and i don’t have to walk on eggshells because i might offend someone who thinks there is an invisible man in the sky and doesn’t like that idea threatened!

This bullshit idea that theists and religionists (yes, that’s you, Blue and you too Muddle) have that their "Beliefs should not be insulted" IS poppycock! To Quote Michael Palin; "If I went round' sayin' i was an Emperor. just cause some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!" If you expect everyone to respect your beliefs but not be able to look at them skeptically and critically then you are in the wrong century. The church has HAD it's free ride for well over a thousand years. Time now for reason and logic to reign.

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