Reply #4: Wondering how this will all play out [View All]

[The Straight Story]

to those in the middle of America (AND elsewhere)- from a PR point of view.

Here are the responses I see:

Bar in Red State:
"Oh jeez, Kerry lost and these people just can't handle losing again, when will they stop whining?"

Bar in red almost blue state:
"Bush stole the election, again, politicians have been assholes from the start of time and he is no exception. What do those people think they will get standing out there in the cold bitching about it? Dems and repubs are both evil anyway."

Bar in blue but almost red state:
"Well, bush stole another one - who wants another round of beers?"

Bar in NY:
"Them politicians are all crooks, turn the fucking channel Moe to some football..."

Bar in CA:
"Damn *, damn him to hell. Now we're all going to die. Give me a double."

Bar in Florida:
"Well, at least they are not blaming us this time!"

Bar in Southern Ohio:
"I voted for bush, fuck those hippies and those assholes in northern ohio with their big cities and crime. Let's go kill osama."

And so on. In a word, apathy. Election is over, people are getting on with their lives - they don't see things the same way we do. Presidents come and go, they all suck and are crooks.

This comes from me being such places personally (I have lived in columbus, Ohio, southern ohio, northern ohio, southern california).

In southern Ohio I used to go to a bar that had posters "osama, wanted dead" and the like. Their big beef with dems - terrorists could blow up something and dems would do nothing about it, at least * was looking to kick someone's ass over it all.

So it comes down to this really - why is it the left claims fraud when they lose but don't when they win? That is not me asking, that is what I am hearing when I discuss this (and I went out after movie tonight, and that is something I heard when I mentioned the election at a local pub here in columbus - east side).

What did I hear back when we went into Iraq? I remember that time well - I was supposed to go on a trip but canceled, the day before I left we invaded Iraq. Down in circleville, at pat's and another bar off the main strip, people were talking all about it (and the news was on, not sports of course - not that there was much sports on at the time). I mentioned the war in passing, and listened to others. "Hell, them damn hippies didn't do shit for 8 years, that clinton guy just sat around getting blow jobs and they sat around drinking expensive coffee. Ain't not one of them protested saddam ever, why they out protesting our president?" (this was an old biker dude at pat's) at tootles pumpkin bar I heard "finally, someone who kicks ass and dosen't roll over"

So here we have some of America. Apathetic. Tired of the claims of cheating by the 'losers' and tired of terrorists blowing up our stuff and no one killing em for it.

Sad really - even many on the left just don't seem to care, it's business as usual. We may here on DU, and on some other sites, but most of the people seem content to move along and keep truckin'. They EXPECT our politicans to be cheaters and liars, all of them - so pointing out that * is dosen't really do much - he is just a cheater and a liar who does what they want to do, kill some terrorists and kick some ass - which distracts them from other things (until they get bored with it all, which they are doing).

Sad. People have come to see all of government as corrupt - so pointing out such corruption does not really surprise or amaze anyone.

Maybe next time we won't sell our candidate as against *, but sell them as someone who can do things for the people - but it may not matter too much, cause people don't believe politicians anyway (they are akin to priests to some who say one thing and do another).

Bars - a window into the avg joe :)